Evolution? Intelligent Design? God did it all in 7 days?

See what i mean? Originally Posted by Doove

No.

Your repeated question was just sarcasm masquerading as intelligent discourse. Folks knew that, so they ignored you.

But you craved attention, so you kept repeating it. See what I mean?

It would....to you! Originally Posted by WTF

WTF making a quick comment as he is waiting on the corner
having arrived to late and missing the short bus.



ha ha ha ha

And to think , I took up for retarded kids like you when I was in school. God Damn ID coming back to byte me in the ass. You are proof there is no God...or if there is, he ran out of brains when you were born.

and remember... IN HEAVEN THERE IS NO BEER!

That cinches it for me! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

That's why we should become Vikings. Valhalla has beer.

Again, Jesus disciples were under the Jewish frame of reference,
the one looking for the promised Messiah, Christianity and it's beliefs
were well established before Constantine.

There are many similarities between many religions, proves nothing.

And again Jesus Disciples claimed to be eye witnesses to the events
they claimed to be true, to the point of being willing to die for it.

Peter asked to be hung upside down on the cross they were to crucify
him on, because he didn't feel worthy to die in the same manner as
Jesus.


If you ever wonder why so many were looking for the Jewish Messiah
at the time of Jesus, Danial's 70 weeks foretells of the time that
the messiah was suppose to appear over 400 years before Jesus.

When calculated to the day and hour, it is when Jesus rode into
Jerusalem on the donkey.

One Jewish scholar even pronounced a curse on anyone who reads
the text in Danial's prophecy and realizes that the the time has already
passed.

There is plenty on the internet about Danial's 70 weeks, do some
research for yourselves, I didn't take yall to raise. Originally Posted by bojulay

None of that is independently provable. The Bible is the Word of God because Pagan Emperor Constantine said so. A lot of evangelicals twist truth and lie to make the numbers come out, but there is no independent evidence of any of this.

I have been reliably informed that the usage of the word "ret*rded" is hate speech. I am sure that WTF didn't know that but ..... we have to wonder. Is it possible that he was really unaware? I will defend WTF for his bad manners on this one. He probably didn't know. I have to say probably because I really don't KNOW what is in his heart.

None of that is independently provable. The Bible is the Word of God because Pagan Emperor Constantine said so. A lot of evangelicals twist truth and lie to make the numbers come out, but there is no independent evidence of any of this. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

damn COG. you stuck in the snow? azsup is going to pass your post count in about 6 months

None of that is independently provable. The Bible is the Word of God because Pagan Emperor Constantine said so. A lot of evangelicals twist truth and lie to make the numbers come out, but there is no independent evidence of any of this. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

The old Constantine angle doesn't work, a little research shows that,
and Danial's 70 weeks can be rather easily calculated.

Also there's Danial's prophecy about the rise of the Medo Persian Empire
and Greece's Alexander The Great, when Danial lived back in the Babylonian
period. Know one knows what to say about that one, except to avoid
discussing it.

You know, we Jews are responsible for a Large portion of the Christian Bible, but I was never taught it was the word of God.

The old Constantine angle doesn't work, a little research shows that,
and Danial's 70 weeks can be rather easily calculated.

Also there's Danial's prophecy about the rise of the Medo Persian Empire
and Greece's Alexander The Great, when Danial lived back in the Babylonian
period. Know one knows what to say about that one, except to avoid
discussing it. Originally Posted by bojulay

Are you saying you believe the Bible to be the Word of God? You realize it was formed by a committee selected by Constantine, a pagan.

What I KNOW is there are two places in Jersulem that claim to be the spot where Jesus was crucified. To quote a movie; there can be only one! One spot, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, was picked out by the wife of an emperor who relied on the word of her servant. I happen to think that site inside the city is wrong. The other site is outside the gates and near a quarry. That sounds like where an execution would happen.

That's why we should become Vikings. Valhalla has beer. Originally Posted by chefnerd

And don't forget about the bitches. It's always about the bitches.

MMmmm scandanavian bitches...

Are you saying you believe the Bible to be the Word of God? You realize it was formed by a committee selected by Constantine, a pagan. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Ugh, I said I didn't take you people to raise and I'm feeling
lazy today so here is the short version.

Yes Constantine help to canonize a bible, sounds simple doesn't
it, not so much.

There are basically the books that are now included in the new testament
and what are know as the Gnostic Gospels, (do I have to go into a
long explanation of who the Gnostic's were) that is all there is, the
Gnostic writings were considered false by the early church fathers,
One doesn't have to read very far into them to see why. and the
authorship of them was more than a little bit questionable.

The included books were around before Constantine and were already
considered to be the true Gospels. There are complete examples and
near complete examples that pre date Constantine and no proof
that they were rewritten by anyone.

Just because Constantine was involved in the gathering together
of books to be included into a bible proves nothing and lends no
credit or discredit to anything.

Like I said you basically have the books that are now included in the
bible and the Gnostic writings, and that is all there is or ever was.

The only exception are a few apocryphal writings that aren't
considered Gnostic but who's authenticity as been questioned.

Again any idea that Constantine had any of the books rewritten
has no credibility because of pre Constantine copies and the earlier
known and accepted beliefs about who and what Jesus was.

And don't forget about the bitches. It's always about the bitches.

MMmmm scandanavian bitches... Originally Posted by jbravo_123

you gotta have the bitches....

No.

Your repeated question was just sarcasm masquerading as intelligent discourse. Originally Posted by ExNYer

And you have a problem with that? Do you not read the majority of posts around here?

Folks knew that, so they ignored you.

Or maybe they ignored me because they realize they don't really have a sound, logical response to their logical dilemma.

When people here don't have a logical response, they do one of two things. They either ignore you, or they do what you're doing right now.

But you craved attention, so you kept repeating it. See what I mean?

If i was craving attention, i'd have 40 posts here in the last 3 days like you. If i craved attention, i'd start about 10 threads a day, no matter how ridiculous they were.

I was making a point. You don't like the way i decided to go about it, tough shit.