Retiring

Considering retirement after my two weeks of being a provider in Kansas. Too much drama, immaturity, and no tips for the service I provide. In short, if I can't get a place nearby to rent or share I am out of the business. Just a heads up.
Bella Shenasi

Hmm, that's too bad. It sounded like you were well received.

One tip for you: a lot of guys don't even consider tipping independent providers. We tip masseuses who work for an agency or spa -- they only get a portion of the fee. But an independent provider like yourself keeps everything. of course you have expenses too, but that's just the cost of being a business owner.

If you think you deserve more than the guys are paying you, you should raise your rates. Don't count on tips. You will be disappointed, and the guys won't even know that you were expecting more.

Hmm, that's too bad. It sounded like you were well received.

One tip for you: a lot of guys don't even consider tipping independent providers. We tip masseuses who work for an agency or spa -- they only get a portion of the fee. But an independent provider like yourself keeps everything. of course you have expenses too, but that's just the cost of being a business owner.

If you think you deserve more than the guys are paying you, you should raise your rates. Don't count on tips. You will be disappointed, and the guys won't even know that you were expecting more. Originally Posted by KCQuestor

Definitely this ^^^.

You could increase your services and rates.

I don't know if you want an apartment or a house (townhouse) to rent. You do need a couple months rent to get started. Then it depends what part of town that you want to live in or what parts to avoid like the plague. He is right though, tipping is not usually considered necessary for an independent but there are times....

I know that last year there were several apartments in Merriam, Shawnee, Lenexa and the area for about $600 a month.

If you have a private location (apartment, etc.) i would come see you. Never know what or if to tip. Agree that you should just set a rate that is inclusive, not confusing, and stick with it. Good luck and let us know.

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WOW... I didn't know.

Wow, she looks to be a quick learner on marketing, lol

Already playing the "retirement" sale angle

You know the old..."Once a year, and only once a year retirement sale"

Hobby land is definitely not for everyone....that's why I respect the ladies who learn how to play the game with style

its the "going out of business" sign without really going out of business....

up your rates and reconsider your requirements.you'd have my business and others i'm sure if you didn't discriminate against newbs or younger men ;-)

Sorry but if you are quitting because of no tips you are in the wrong business. Yea some men are generous and do tip, but a tip here is not something you should sit around and wait for. Especially if you only provide massages which I could be wrong but I think I read that somewhere.

Considering retirement after my two weeks of being a provider in Kansas. Too much drama, immaturity, and no tips for the service I provide. In short, if I can't get a place nearby to rent or share I am out of the business. Just a heads up.
Bella Shenasi Originally Posted by Hunny Bunny

LOL!

I don't think you could earn a tip at the RNC convention's favorite strip club even if you were wearing a burka.

LOL? Several polls show that republicans tip better than democrats. Look at all those scandals in the state department, secret service, and senate when the dems not only don't tip but want their money back.

I hope Hunny Bunny sticks around but I have emailed her twice, texted twice, but it doesn't seem to go through.

I don't speak much here, but I think people overuse and over-expect tips (in all aspects of society). The whole point of a tip is if someone goes above and beyond what they feel is a "normal" job done, especially if that person works somewhere else where their boss/business/whatever gets most of the money. I used to work in service (not this type) and I would routinely go above and beyond what was expected, but only got tips about once a month. But I never complained, I just budgeted for my salary and viewed tips as "free" money

Anyway, like others have said, if you feel you should get more, then raise your rates and let supply/demand figure out the true worth. If you're worth more, people will pay it, and somewhere there is a happy medium. Welcome to owning your own business

I almost never tip those stupid "tip jars" that seem to have popped up everywhere. If you're at a counter and your sole job is to take my money and hand me food that someone else cooked, no, you don't get a tip.

I probably don't need to add to this, but hey, it's opinion time, right?

I agree that you should charge what you want or what you think your services are worth. I (maybe incorrectly) equate tipping with giving someone extra money for the great service they provided when most/all of the service fees usually go to someone else (the owner).

As an independent provider, everything already goes to you, so if you want more, charge more. You'll still get tips from some and those will be icing on the cake.