still not enough evidence to warrant killing someone because of what they say or because they slapped you around ... Cops wont shoot you for talking shit to them or because you hit them in the face with your fist .. you have to show them a gun knife or SOMETHING that proves you are trying to KILL you first before they kill you ... Zimmer had other options IMO but he took the "No witness" road .... dead men cant testify against you Originally Posted by CJ7Zim man is going to get convicted of manslaughter.
CJ should be sooooo embarassed that he agrees with FuckZup. Since there were only two people there who is the third person CJ is talking about? Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
An all black jury would convict Zim man just like this all white jury is going to.
wtf: "I did say if it was an all black jury, he'd be toast"
That's RACIST! Originally Posted by LexusLover
still not enough evidence to warrant killing someone because of what they say or because they slapped you around ... Cops wont shoot you for talking shit to them or because you hit them in the face with your fist .. you have to show them a gun knife or SOMETHING that proves you are trying to KILL you first before they kill you ... Zimmer had other options IMO but he took the "No witness" road .... dead men cant testify against you Originally Posted by CJ7You are wrong if you are referring to the laws in Florida and most other states, but you don't have to believe me, just listen to the judges orders she will give to the jurors before deliberation. Now, if you are referring to your own morals, then carry on...
... Cops wont shoot you for talking shit to them or because you hit them in the face with your fist .. you have to show them a gun knife or SOMETHING that proves you are trying to KILL you first before they kill you ... Originally Posted by CJ7And you learned this law where?
Don't think that is possible with the defense claiming self-defense. You can't be innocent of 2nd degree murder by reasoning of self-defense and not also be innocent of manslaughter by those same means? Originally Posted by nwaroundernwa .... you forget ...
You are wrong if you are referring to the laws in Florida and most other states, but you don't have to believe me, just listen to the judges orders she will give to the jurors before deliberation. Now, if you are referring to your own morals, then carry on... Originally Posted by nwarounder
Don't think that is possible with the defense claiming self-defense. You can't be innocent of 2nd degree murder by reasoning of self-defense and not also be innocent of manslaughter by those same means? Originally Posted by nwarounderhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/us...rida.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/us...rida.html?_r=0Good to know, thanks, that is why I put the question mark in there.
The case will almost certainly include a pretrial hearing to determine whether the state’s Stand Your Ground law, which grants broad protections to people who claim to have killed in self-defense, applies; if the judge finds that Mr. Zimmerman acted appropriately, the case will end there. If the judge decides that the protections of the law do not apply, the case will go forward.
At trial, however, the question of self-defense can be brought up again and possibly will, said Robert Weisberg, a criminal law expert at Stanford Law School. That could lead to a fallback position for the jury — if allowed by the judge — of a lesser verdict of manslaughter should the jury decide that Mr. Zimmerman sincerely but unreasonably believed that he was appropriately using lethal force to defend himself, which is known as “imperfect self-defense.” Originally Posted by WTF
nwa .... you forget ...The six white women are going to send the Zim Man away and latent racist like you are going to be crying in your hoods!
..... because .......
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Post # 176 by WTF:
“The case will be won or lost in jury selection.” Originally Posted by LexusLover