Ember Simmers Dangerous Nutcase!

Ember Simmers (TER 198619*P411 P85630*embersimmers.com) just lost her shit & sent me multiple (about 15) nasty txts because I said she must be new (I don't have time to spoon feed a provider) because she was having trouble finding me on any of the sites I advertise including my website. I guess I also incensed her when after the first nasty txt & then about every 5th txt she sent after that I informed her I was deleting all her txts before reading them. I am not interested in nor do I have time for what someone with no class & no professionalism has to say. After taking the time I again do not have to research this girl I realized she is not new just stupid, which one would think with a high volume girl like Ember she would have picked up some logical screening skills by now. HERE'S THE DANGEROUS PART: the stupid fucking client that used me as a ref gave her MY PRIVATE NUMBER I use for CLIENTS ONLY & no one else should ever have unless I give it to them. I advised him of the situation, told him I was putting up an alert about her & letting him slide this time because he is not a true "Hobbiest" per se (he uses eros only) but that I would not ever give him a ref nor see him again. GENTLEMEN: be advised that although Ember is seasoned she is immature & unstable which seems to be the case with a larger percentage of the younger providers. They lack the ability to reason & level head that comes with experience & is so necessary for this business. LADIES: if Ember is given your info for a ref proceed with caution. SIDENOTE: while I was typing this, to Ember's credit she txt an apology. Unfortunately it's too little too late. Be Safe Out There Folks! The Struggle Is Real!

To err is human; to forgive, divine.

TRU DAT! When it comes to the HOBBY though civilian protocol DOES NOT APPLY. I do forgive the poor girl however, honor the safety of our community more.

I am not taking sides in this because I don't know either person and don't have enough information--but I will say that this underlines one of the things that definitely bothers me about the "rules" of this business--namely, that there is no place for a new person of either gender to find them. Yes, I know a few are "obvious" and one can pick up with just a small investment of time and effort: don't out people, discretion is important, cleanliness is really important, etc.

Some others are in play as basic interpersonal relationship rules: honest advertizing, not shorting envelopes, and keeping your word.

But there are too many "rules" that are really personal or local preferences and it is frustrating to see some men and some ladies get irate about things an inexperienced person has no real way of knowing: whether to pay at the beginning or the end, how to politely ask for more time if a date is going well, reasonable etiquette when asking for a reference, how far in advance to ask for an appointment, how long it is reasonable to wait for a lady's reply, what to do if someone has to cancel, etc. So often I see new (or not so new) people get trashed by folks who insist that there is "only one right answer" to these things, when in reality that just isn't the case.

There is no excuse for a string of rude texts, but unless a lady makes it clear up front how she wants to pass references it is far from obvious what she prefers. I always believe that if am going to use a lady as a reference it is my job to pass the contact information to the lady I am trying to see, not make her look it up. In one case I received a scathing e-mail from a lady because I passed her phone number along, but she wanted to be contacted by e-mail. In a different case, just the reverse. I am very poor at mind reading, as I suspect most people are.

I completely agree with everything you said. My biggest issue & concern was MY PRIVATE NUMBER that I give to CLIENTS ONLY & tell them this is MY PRIVATE LINE was given to a provider for a ref when I have a professional google number(which is listed on every ad & profile I have as well as my website & every client must use to contact me prior to booking & receiving MY PRIVATE LINE) & a professional contact email (that is listed everywhere I just mentioned) & that provider who now has MY PRIVATE NUMBER went psycho on me over something so trivial. Anyone should be able to understand this is disturbing at the very least. Safety, privacy & discretion are Priority One & a two way street in the Hobby.

Our two second texting turned into im dangerous? Well I never apologized so I'm not sure what she is saying. Because I never said anything crazy. I'll be glad to show people the texts. I just simply tried to verify a number that wasn't even associated to ads ...so therefore I wasnt having any luck. Glad to finally see she is real though. ..

So moral of the story, is I do look up the girl you give me as a reference. So don't try and pull anything on me. Haha

And talk about going crazy over something trivial. She wants to post in this national board AND in stl? http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...790&highlight=

Please take note in the STL thread, that she admitted to deleting my texts (as I tried to explain that she was not understanding what was going on) and she wasn't even reading my texts. But yet she has the ability to say I'm dangerous? When she has no idea what I said? Interesting. WELLLL!!!! I know what I said, and still have the texts, if anyone wants proof.

Anyhow, sounds like she was mad her personal number was given out and took it out on me. Someone was having a bad day.
But I had a GREAT DAY!! In Saint Louis! Whoop

Hey Just Jodi, sorry to hear about that. Hope you are doing well.

Unfortunately any number given out in the hobby is eventually going to shared, normally by accident.

PRIVATE CLIENT NUMBER? That's pretty funny! I guess it's not very private if they are giving it out..... YES?

Can you say menopause... I knew you could!

Our two second texting turned into im dangerous? Well I never apologized so I'm not sure what she is saying. Because I never said anything crazy. I'll be glad to show people the texts. I just simply tried to verify a number that wasn't even associated to ads ...so therefore I wasnt having any luck. Glad to finally see she is real though. ..

So moral of the story, is I do look up the girl you give me as a reference. So don't try and pull anything on me. Haha

And talk about going crazy over something trivial. She wants to post in this national board AND in stl? http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...790&highlight=

Please take note in the STL thread, that she admitted to deleting my texts (as I tried to explain that she was not understanding what was going on) and she wasn't even reading my texts. But yet she has the ability to say I'm dangerous? When she has no idea what I said? Interesting. WELLLL!!!! I know what I said, and still have the texts, if anyone wants proof.

Anyhow, sounds like she was mad her personal number was given out and took it out on me. Someone was having a bad day.
But I had a GREAT DAY!! In Saint Louis! Whoop Originally Posted by Ember Simmers

Ember doesn't sound like you need to prove anything. Some of these old hookers get shook up pretty easy.

Dude, harsh, I am guessing you have not met just Jodi. While mature, she has the looks, body and energy of a much younger lady. She was venting. While I agree any number given out is likely to accidentally shared, no need to be rude.

Dude, harsh, I am guessing you have not met just Jodi. While mature, she has the looks, body and energy of a much younger lady. She was venting. While I agree any number given out is likely to accidentally shared, no need to be rude. Originally Posted by INTOITBOY

You would be correct I have not met her. She lost me at 45 (could be higher hooker age varies compared to real age.) nor have I met Ember.

When a hooker starts using the word "dangerous" I'm sure it gets everyone's attention as it did mine. Still not sure what the big deal might be? All she needs to do is change her number, give it to you and the other guy and that's it. Private personal number... Now that's funny!

I don't fuck fossils for free and I sure don't pay them $$$50 LMFAO But what the hell to each his own! There is room for all of use.

Dude, harsh, I am guessing you have not met just Jodi. While mature, she has the looks, body and energy of a much younger lady. She was venting. While I agree any number given out is likely to accidentally shared, no need to be rude. Originally Posted by INTOITBOY

Mate, He wasn't talking about her body..... it was her mind or the equivalent she posses. He gave it out, not her.

Good lord lady... I have had numerous conversations with Ember and she is as sane as you would want.........

Go get a new phone.

'...paying to fuck a fossil.' That's some funny shit there mate.
Cheers

So no doubles with her I take it.

'...paying to fuck a fossil.' That's some funny shit there mate.
Cheers Originally Posted by ThroatChoker

Its from a movie

GENTLEMEN: be advised that although Ember is seasoned she is immature & unstable which seems to be the case with a larger percentage of the younger providers. They lack the ability to reason & level head that comes with experience & is so necessary for this business.
Originally Posted by JustJodi

So you are saying that older mature providers are smarter because they have many men and a lot of time under their belt?

Wow, that is amazing. I would have never guessed.

Also:

How is giving out a number that he uses to contact you a dangerous act?
Do you have a second number that he needs to give to other younger hookers to call and ask for refs?

Do you just use an email? Are are your clients informed of this little issue you have with the "private" line of yours?

Do you like dancing in the rain and if you do is it more thrilling doing it in a red dress... Just curious about that one.

And just wondering, being 45 years old and she is so young that you couldn't take her apology because you never made any mistakes being a young hooker?