Overpriced providers.

Whatever. Let's just agree to disagree.

Almost all of them want us to be done in 10 minutes, but they want an hour's pay for it.

Some of them charge what they charge because they don't like men, and can't stand the sight of you, much less want to touch you.

Most would rather fuck a man that they're attracted to for free than take money to fuck one that they're disgusted by. They pad their rates because of this fact.

They love the fact that most men are suckers. If you could be a fly on the wall when they talk about us behind our backs...

But keep up the worship. They love you for it...but still don't 'like' you, and want your money.

Whatever. Let's just agree to disagree.

Almost all of them want us to be done in 10 minutes, but they want an hour's pay for it.

Some of them charge what they charge because they don't like men, and can't stand the sight of you, much less want to touch you.

Most would rather fuck a man that they're attracted to for free than take money to fuck one that they're disgusted by. They pad their rates because of this fact.

They love the fact that most men are suckers. If you could be a fly on the wall when they talk about us behind our backs...

But keep up the worship. They love you for it...but still don't 'like' you, and want your money. Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

There are all sorts of people n this corner of the world, but far too many of my experiences do not seem to match yours. Some may be what we are looking for, how we "screen" who we see, or very likely which ladies attract us.

I typically get more time than I arranged for with the ladies I see as a repeat client. This last weekend I spent most the weekend at a lady's home for the cost of my flight there and a few meals at nice restaurants. I also get frequent calls from ladies who just want to talk, or ask advice, or have a shoulder to lean on.

Yes, I suspect we will agree to disagree.

Guys, have you ever tried to talk to a provider about anything OTHER THAN making an appointment?? You can't, can you, because if you are, you're 'wasting her time'....because the phone could ring 'at any time' for an appointment...even though she's 'low volume'.

Just saying.

Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

I would love to know how well this works when you talk to your doctor, dentist or therapist off the clock.
If you want to chat why don't you just call one of your friends, or your therapist?

There are all sorts of people n this corner of the world, but far too many of my experiences do not seem to match yours. Some may be what we are looking for, how we "screen" who we see, or very likely which ladies attract us.

I typically get more time than I arranged for with the ladies I see as a repeat client. This last weekend I spent most the weekend at a lady's home for the cost of my flight there and a few meals at nice restaurants. I also get frequent calls from ladies who just want to talk, or ask advice, or have a shoulder to lean on.

Yes, I suspect we will agree to disagree. Originally Posted by Old-T

Funny. Sounds to me like you're an overstayer, and a moocher. Dude, unless you're undeniably handsome and have that old man charm, they don't want to spend any unnecessary time with you.

It's a case by case basis. I've had one or two of these myself, but it's not a recurring situation. I understand the game. I don't try to be overbearing to these women. I see them, have my fun (usually), and go about my day, being a gentleman the whole time. Some are surprised that I'm not the guy in person that I appear to be on this board. Here, I say what I feel needs to be said. It doesn't always rub everyone the right way. What can you do.

I would love to know how well this works when you talk to your doctor, dentist or therapist off the clock.
If you want to chat why don't you just call one of your friends, or your therapist? Originally Posted by badbadgirl2013

A, these people are trained professionals, who spent tens of thousands to master their arena of expertise. They're usually too busy to talk, but there's small talk with these professionals sometimes, ranging from sports to how I hurt myself and ending up needing to see them.

The reason I mentioned talking to providers, or chatting with them, is because sometimes you all complain that we only treat you like a piece of meat. Well, to alleviate that, sometimes we try to be more human to you instead being a horny pervert. I guess there's an inconvenience to doing that, too. It's a fine line, apparently.

Funny. Sounds to me like you're an overstayer, and a moocher. Dude, unless you're undeniably handsome and have that old man charm, they don't want to spend any unnecessary time with you.

It's a case by case basis. I've had one or two of these myself, but it's not a recurring situation. I understand the game. I don't try to be overbearing to these women. I see them, have my fun (usually), and go about my day, being a gentleman the whole time. Some are surprised that I'm not the guy in person that I appear to be on this board. Here, I say what I feel needs to be said. It doesn't always rub everyone the right way. What can you do. Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

No, I don't overstay. I typically host, and when my time is up I make sure they can easily walk away if they wish. I will often--not always--offer them dinner if we did not go out before, or they will sometimes ask if they can stay. Sometimes they just sit down and hang out a while without asking. I never try to impose, but most the time I don't hurry them along either. If they hang around for a half hour, or an hour, or the rest of the night, I assume it is because they wish to. If I think they have had too much to drink I offer them a ride home, or I'll pay for a cab, or they can stay in the spare bedroom. If they do ask to stay over, I make sure they know it's their choice which bedroom they sleep in.

I guarantee you I am at best (and only on my good days) average to slightly below in the looks category.

A, these people are trained professionals, who spent tens of thousands to master their arena of expertise. They're usually too busy to talk, but there's small talk with these professionals sometimes, ranging from sports to how I hurt myself and ending up needing to see them.

The reason I mentioned talking to providers, or chatting with them, is because sometimes you all complain that we only treat you like a piece of meat. Well, to alleviate that, sometimes we try to be more human to you instead being a horny pervert. I guess there's an inconvenience to doing that, too. It's a fine line, apparently. Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

Yes, it is a fine line. Please do your best to not cross it.

Well said!

I do agree on the glamour shot photos. That's why I do video. I have had doubles with girls and thought she looks nothing like her pics. She's not worth $$$. So next time I'll meet up with her before or take advice from guys on which girls to see. Bottom line we charge what we want.

They can charge anything they want - I can chose to see them or not. It works fine...I decide what "value" is for me, not you!! Originally Posted by Ed Highlight

Precisely.

Dude, unless you're undeniably handsome and have that old man charm, they don't want to spend any unnecessary time with you. Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

That is not always the case. Regardless of what a guy thinks a provider is, she is still a human and can actually genuinely like to be with a guy. I am not a woman or a provider, but I would assume that she might only do this with one that she also trusts to keep his mouth shut about their time together when she is off work if he is/was also a client.

IMO the guy should also respect her lifestyle and not try to just get something for free, if anything happens beyond just being a friend let it be her that makes the first move. Sometimes they might just want a guy who is a friend to take them to dinner. Unless she tells the guy otherwise, if he makes the move for more, he should respect her work and do what any other client would do.

You can actually lose friends quickly if you take advantage of their jobs that they do. I work in the computer field and usually after making a friend if they start wanting me to work on their computer for free all the time, I start backing off and it usually ends in the loss of them as a friend. Heck, I even told my own family that if the only thing they are calling me for is they need computer help, to stop calling because at one point that was what ALL the phone calls were for, not just to talk.

If I have a friend that is a mechanic, I will always offer them money or a trade of inviting them for dinner or something else if they work on my car. They usually say they won't accept it but most of the time I make sure they take it anyway so that I am not taking advantage of them and that they don't think I am taking advantage of them. If my friend is NOT a mechanic and I ask him to help me work on my car, it is doubtful I would offer them money, depending on the situation but would still offer them free beer and/or possibly a BBQ.

Overpriced?? some yes!
Like non GFE no touching for $400/ hr

Rambo Creed - if you do happen to have a therapist, spend a few sessions on "black and white thinking." If you don't, just google it.

Life isn't always this or that. You miss out on a lot if you let yourself think that way.

For me to add in ...a lot of ladies spend a lot of time chatting on the message boards. Some men like to knock it and call it "threads,' oh well ...boo hiss. I choose to ignore those people and just focus on the ones that I want in my life. Maybe Rando Creed could do the same ...ignore the ones that you don't vibe with and focus on the ones that you do.
xoxo

Well Rambro, all I've got to say is that I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry that you've seen ladies that make you feel as if we all think you're so disgusting and so awful that we wouldn't even be there if your "sucker" ass wasn't paying us. I'm sorry that the way you talk about men is how you really feel about them.

But that's not me, and that's not all the ladies here. Maybe if you weren't so focused on how "stupid and unqualified" we are, and let go of what we "deserve", you'd have more fun.

I will say that I was at $250 when I first started, and I know that I provide much differently now that I have some experience under my belt and make more per hour. Some may have just woken up like this, but I am actually VERY well educated, with multiple degrees and experience in the "real world". I am more than capable of taking responsibility for a higher rate by reinvesting in my business, and providing an experience worthy of that higher rate that I was unable to at a lower one. I may not have gone to school for this (though, let's please all act like that wouldn't be a ton of fun), but I far from rolled out of bed this morning waiting for someone to call so I could throw some eyeliner on and take advantage of him.

If you don't like the service you're getting at $250, then maybe it's you who needs to do something different. I know for myself at that price range, I was getting a ton of emails (had less time to devote to each), saw more people in a day (hope I have a towel and some energy left!), and putting myself at much greater risk of LE (hotels don't notice one suitor, they may notice 5+). There were also a ton of other little things that you could say came down to finesse, like not being able to remember details simply because there were so many people to see and talk to that I usually forgot what they said as they walked out the door. They may not be obvious to you up front, but the life of a $250 girl is much busier and much more stressful than you seem ready to accept. If that level of service isn't your thing, then maybe someone at a higher rate is more suited to you.

I don't get the impression that you've ever tried, but there is a reason some ladies can command more than others. Sometimes it's where they live, sometimes it's what they look like, sometimes it's what they've done (porn, special acts, etc), and sometimes it's because they can send you home without making you feel as you do. Because you shouldn't be paying to feel like a fool...