Yew folks oughta go ta this h'yar website! Load up on yer bets an' take it ta tha bank! Y'all gonna make a whole buncha dinero offa them Demmycrats!
https://www.predictit.org Originally Posted by David.Douchehurst
Yew folks oughta go ta this h'yar website! Load up on yer bets an' take it ta tha bank! Y'all gonna make a whole buncha dinero offa them Demmycrats!Face it. Trump will be the next President of the United States. And the Mexican and European politicians will have to deal with him. We are Americans. Time we asserted our power once again.
https://www.predictit.org Originally Posted by David.Douchehurst
You are going to be in for a Big surprise in November if you think Trump is going to carry the women's vote. I work with, grew up with and know plenty of Latinos and don't know one who would vote for Trump. There is no way he will get the women or Latino vote. I'm predicting a landslide victory for Hillary. Originally Posted by PrettyBoyGHere are the latest polls:
I understand but it isn't that simple. They have to be supportive enough of Hillary to turn out and vote and they aren't that motivated. What they will do is just stay home. Originally Posted by pussycatI disagree. I think the turnout for the November election will be very high on both sides. Republicans hate Clinton. Democrats hate Trump. Many will be going to the polls to vote against a candidate rather than vote for a candidate.
Actually he compromises all the time and is very rational. If you wanna know more about the real Trump look beyond the bluster and accusations and listen to people who have worked with him. Even Left wing Piers Morgan says he's different than his detractors claim. Morgan actually knows him. Originally Posted by pussycatTrump is on record as saying he is "not a huge compromiser".
I disagree. I think the turnout for the November election will be very high on both sides. Republicans hate Clinton. Democrats hate Trump. Many will be going to the polls to vote against a candidate rather than vote for a candidate. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXXYou have a point but only in a limited manner. The Trump haters are a small minority. Most of the people showing up in the polls disapproving of Trump will come to accept him. This is what happened among Republicans. His ratings at the start among Republicans were similarly bad, but with time he won them over. The big fear about Trump among Democrats is his ability to bring in Independents (and I don't mean Indie escorts although that might also be correct) and blue collar Democrats. The blue collar Democrats in the rust belt and truck drivers and in places like New Jersey will vote for Trump over Hillary. Look to the "Reagan Democrats" in 1980 and you will see the same. Trump will carry the "Joe Sixpack" Democrats such as union members and those who's jobs are threatened by free trade. Trump is divisive but he unites a majority behind him. That's his strategy and it's successful. Completely and totally successful as a strategist. He's one smart Dude but not any one's idea of an intellectual.
You have a point but only in a limited manner. The Trump haters are a small minority. Most of the people showing up in the polls disapproving of Trump will come to accept him. This is what happened among Republicans. His ratings at the start among Republicans were similarly bad, but with time he won them over. The big fear about Trump among Democrats is his ability to bring in Independents (and I don't mean Indie escorts although that might also be correct) and blue collar Democrats. The blue collar Democrats in the rust belt and truck drivers and in places like New Jersey will vote for Trump over Hillary. Look to the "Reagan Democrats" in 1980 and you will see the same. Trump will carry the "Joe Sixpack" Democrats such as union members and those who's jobs are threatened by free trade. Trump is divisive but he unites a majority behind him. That's his strategy and it's successful. Completely and totally successful as a strategist. He's one smart Dude but not any one's idea of an intellectual. Originally Posted by pussycatHere is a link to the latest poll done by CNN.
Here is a link to the latest poll done by CNN.I understand the polls but it's way too early for them to be accurate. We haven't even gotten to the conventions yet! Everything will change after the conventions.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politi...eral-election/
The results confirm, at least in this poll, what I stated. More people are planning to vote against Trump than are planning to vote for Clinton and more people are planning to vote against Clinton than are planning to vote for Trump.
I watched CNN last night for election returns and the CNN analyst pointed out that it will be very difficult for Trump to win the election. He believes the key states in the election will be Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. I would add Florida to the list. For whatever reason, the CNN analyst believes Florida will go Democratic for sure.
Obama won the electoral count in 2012 by 332 - 206. That means that 64 electoral votes must go red (Republican) that were blue (Democrat) in 2012.
Wisconsin has 10. Michigan 16. Ohio 18. Pennsylvania 20. Florida 29.
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are states that have gone blue for many Presidential elections. Pennsylvania since 1988. Michigan since 1988. Wisconsin since 1984. I expect Michigan to stay blue in 2016. Probably Wisconsin too. That leaves 67 open electoral votes in my opinion. If true, that means Trump must win Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida to be victorious.
A tough task but hardly impossible. A lot could happen in 6 months. Clinton could be in jail before then.
I'd be interested in hearing your opinion how Trump will be victorious. What states will shift from blue to red in 2016? Anyone else feel free to give us your opinion. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
You have a point. However, in 2012 you had Obama running against Mitt Romney--ewwwww. I didn't even bother to vote - lots of people did not bother to vote. So it will be interesting as there will be people coming out to vote that did not in the last 2 elections. This year I'm ready to cast my vote - and I am a Trumpet - I'm voting for the Donald. Originally Posted by Austin EllenWell, we could go back to 2008 if you prefer where Obama beat McCain 365 -173. Obama lost Indiana and North Carolina in 2012 that he won in 2008. Does McCain register an "ewwwww" with you too? lol.
I understand the polls but it's way too early for them to be accurate. We haven't even gotten to the conventions yet! Everything will change after the conventions.I don't think comparing Lincoln in 1860 to Trump in 2016 is very fair or accurate. The man rated the best President of all time to a man with few accomplishments outside the business world.
Once more I have to repeat that Trump will win for these reasons: 1.White male wage earners who are threatened by free trade such as the ones who turned out in droves for him in Indiana and other places. 2.Independents drawn to his message who have never voted before. 3.Evangelicals - the crowd that voted for Bush Jr. and Reagan are crazy for Trump. 4. AND other sundry people like Evangelicals who are afraid of terrorism or crime from immigrants.
BTW...
Look at the campaign of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and you will see many similarities. Lincoln opposed immigration and catholics because they threatened to drive down wages and other reasons. He also opposed slavery but not for moral reasons. He opposed slavery because it depressed wages for workers [ "slave power" as he called it]. He also was opposed to free trade and sought high tariffs to protect industry. He also wanted government spending on infrastructure. Lincoln and Trump could be twins. Originally Posted by pussycat
