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and one more thing. If you voted for Trump you actually feel the same way I do. You might as well burn the flag because voting for Trump means all you did was just take a massive shit on your country and it's because of idiots like you that the country is in steady decline. Wanting to take the county back to a time of even more oppression and racism. Fucking hillbillies.
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I will never pledge no fucking allegiance to no one's flag... Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
Hey look... a triple negative! I can't decipher this one! If I cancel out all the negatives, does it mean he will give fucking allegiance to someone's flag? Help me out here... what is shit-stained trying to say???
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...the country hasn't issued a formal apology for slavery and still treat blacks like shit. I'd have to be some kind of idiot to pledge allegiance to that reality. All of you are morons and none of you are critical thinking people. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

Here you go, chappyass... Shelby Steele is a critical thinker and he's talking directly to YOU!


Why the Left Can’t Let Go of Racism

Liberals sell innocence from America’s past. If bigotry is pronounced dead, the racket is over.


By Shelby Steele
Aug. 27, 2017 5:15 p.m. ET

Is America racist? It used to be that racism meant the actual enforcement of bigotry—the routine implementation of racial inequality everywhere in public and private life. Racism was a tyranny and an oppression that dehumanized—animalized—the “other.” It was a social malignancy, yet it carried the authority of natural law, as if God himself had dispassionately ordained it.

Today Americans know that active racism is no longer the greatest barrier to black and minority advancement. Since the 1960s other pathologies, even if originally generated by racism, have supplanted it. White racism did not shoot more than 4,000 people last year in Chicago. To the contrary, America for decades now—with much genuine remorse—has been recoiling from the practice of racism and has gained a firm intolerance for what it once indulged.

But Americans don’t really trust the truth of this. It sounds too self-exonerating. Talk of “structural” and “systemic” racism conditions people to think of it as inexorable, predestined. So even if bigotry and discrimination have lost much of their menace, Americans nevertheless yearn to know whether or not we are a racist people.

A staple on cable news these days is the “racial incident,” which stands as a referendum on this question. Today there is Charlottesville. Yesterday there were the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Freddie Gray and others. Don’t they reveal an irrepressible racism in American life? At the news conferences surrounding these events there are always the Al Sharpton clones, if not the man himself, ready to spin the tale of black tragedy and white bigotry.

Such people—and the American left generally—have a hunger for racism that is almost craven. The writer Walker Percy once wrote of the “sweetness at the horrid core of bad news.” It’s hard to witness the media’s oddly exhilarated reaction to, say, the death of Trayvon Martin without applying Percy’s insight. A black boy is dead. But not all is lost. It looks like racism.

What makes racism so sweet? Today it empowers. Racism was once just racism, a terrible bigotry that people nevertheless learned to live with, if not as a necessary evil then as an inevitable one. But the civil-rights movement, along with independence movements around the world, changed that. The ’60s recast racism in the national consciousness as an incontrovertible sin, the very worst of all social evils.

Suddenly America was in moral trouble. The open acknowledgment of the nation’s racist past had destroyed its moral authority, and affirming democratic principles and the rule of law was not a sufficient response. Only a strict moral accounting could restore legitimacy.

Thus, redemption—paying off the nation’s sins—became the moral imperative of a new political and cultural liberalism. President Lyndon Johnson turned redemption into a kind of activism: the Great Society, the War on Poverty, school busing, liberalized welfare policies, affirmative action, and so on.

This liberalism always projects moral idealisms (integration, social justice, diversity, inclusion, etc.) that have the ring of redemption. What is political correctness, if not essentially redemptive speech? Soon liberalism had become a cultural identity that offered Americans a way to think of themselves as decent people. To be liberal was to be good.

Here we see redemptive liberalism’s great ingenuity: It seized proprietorship over innocence itself. It took on the power to grant or deny moral legitimacy across society. Liberals were free of the past while conservatives longed to resurrect it, bigotry and all. What else could “Make America Great Again” mean? In this way redemptive liberalism reshaped the moral culture of the entire Western world with sweeping idealisms like “diversity,” which are as common today in Europe as in America.

So today there is sweetness at the news of racism because it sets off the hunt for innocence and power. Racism and bigotry generally are the great driving engines of modern American liberalism. Even a remote hint of racism can trigger a kind of moral entrepreneurism.

The “safe spaces” for minority students on university campuses are actually redemptive spaces for white students and administrators looking for innocence and empowerment. As minorities in these spaces languish in precious self-absorption, their white classmates, high on the idea of their own wonderful “tolerance,” whistle past the very segregated areas they are barred from.

America’s moral fall in the ’60s made innocence of the past an obsession. Thus liberalism invited people to internalize innocence, to become synonymous with it—even to fight for it as they would for an ideology. But to be innocent there must be an evil from which to be free. The liberal identity must have racism, lest it lose innocence and the power it conveys.

The great problem for conservatives is that they lack the moral glibness to compete with liberalism’s “innocence.” But today there are signs of what I have called race fatigue. People are becoming openly cynical toward the left’s moral muscling with racism. Add to this liberalism’s monumental failure to come even close to realizing any of its beautiful idealisms, and the makings of a new conservative mandate become clearer. As idealism was the left’s political edge, shouldn’t realism now be the right’s? Reality as the informing vision—and no more wrestling with innocence.

Mr. Steele, a senior fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, is author of “Shame: How America’s Past Sins Have Polarized Our Country” (Basic Books, 2015).

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the...ism-1503868512
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I B Hankering's Avatar
There are some things about this country I like and some things I dislike. I will never pledge no fucking allegiance to no one's flag I don't give a fuck what country I live in. Why pledge allegiance when the country hasn't issued a formal apology for slavery and still treat blacks like shit. I'd have to be some kind of idiot to pledge allegiance to that reality. All of you are morons and none of you are critical thinking people. Just Manchurian type, easily programmed retards is what all of you are. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

And just what country do you imagine never had slavery, Shit-stained Chapped-ass, and yes, your ignorant post can be factually refuted, Shit-stained Chapped-ass.
Hey look... a triple negative! I can't decipher this one! If I cancel out all the negatives, does it mean he will give fucking allegiance to someone's flag? Help me out here... what is shit-stained trying to say??? Originally Posted by lustylad
Allegiance to the rainbow flag prolly !
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... and yes, your ignorant post can be factually refuted, Shit-stained Chapped-ass. Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Oh, my! Shit-stained ChappedAss starts up a thread and he immediately gets bitch-slapped - not just by us racist hillbillies, but by Shelby Steele and a professor of Afro-American history!

Not a good day for Shit-stained... or for his brand of "critical thinking"!
Colin Kaepernick Let's examine it here and now. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
None of you ASS CLOWNS can legitimately refute my OP. I don't give a fuck that you disagree with the sentiment the fact remains 99% of historians agree it's a direct insult to American slaves. I'm sure if these American slaves were white you Putz's would be screaming bloody murder.

All of you num-nuts can fuck off and choke on a dick to be honest. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
Now you told a lie. Most of the historians that I've read agree the Key was talking about the slaves "free" by the crown. These "free" slaves were then impressed into service with no choice by the British for some of the most horrible of war crimes against American civilians. You forget to point out the same line German mercenaries who also committed war crimes. I would that no one, except a fool, would think that Key was referring to slaves in general. You come off as a fool.
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Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
more like THE AFROBOY
... the fact remains 99% of lefty homo communist historians agree it's a direct insult to American slaves. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK?

Chimps like you will complain no matter what.

How come AA's are the only group in general that just don't seem to do well in American society?

All other groups seem to be quite successful.

I have a theory.

They are stupid, low I.Q., functionally retarded, etc...

Fact: Only 15 to 20% of AA's are at or above the mean average I.Q. in the American population.

I gave up on blacks every voting conservative. I think the most you will every see vote conservative will be about 15 to 20%. ;-)
Actually Muscleup I agree with you but I think your numbers are a little off ..... I'm sure only 1% of AA's are at or above the mean average I.Q. in the American population ..... the other 99% are apparently are too busy being directly insulted by those nasty historians ..... oh if only the I.Q.'s of THAT group could be higher ..... and with Sissy's idiotic rants on this forum, I think we all know which group she's in .....
Actually Muscleup I agree with you but I think your numbers are a little off ..... I'm sure only 1% of AA's are at or above the mean average I.Q. in the American population ..... the other 99% are apparently are too busy being directly insulted by those nasty historians ..... oh if only the I.Q.'s of THAT group could be higher ..... and with Sissy's idiotic rants on this forum, I think we all know which group she's in ..... Originally Posted by 00 gauge
Your numbers definitely seem more accurate.

What makes the situation worse is the fact AA's have very high self esteem (God only knows why). It distorts their reality. It can be observed as "negro-bullshit". Which the OP is full of.

And just what country do you imagine never had slavery, Shit-stained Chapped-ass, and yes, your ignorant post can be factually refuted, Shit-stained Chapped-ass.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering
I doubt any country has not had slavery.. AND TO my recollection, there's NOT BEEN that many which have apologized for it..

WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK?

Chimps like you will complain no matter what.

How come AA's are the only group in general that just don't seem to do well in American society?

All other groups seem to be quite successful.
Originally Posted by Muscleup


Add to that, look at damn near all of africa. IIRC there's not a single country there, that's NOT won its freedom from Some EU country, and have had their freedom for 20+ years. BUT THEY ARE Still living/acting like they are in the 900s, EVEN WITH all the natural resources many countries have..


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Besides Colin Kaepernick being 100% right in protest against the police murderous behavior I just realized the anthem literally celebrates the death of slaves. Historians all agree that it does as well and that it is a disgrace. Let's examine it here and now. The 3rd stanza of the American National Anthem reads:



I'm done singing this shit forever until this is fixed. So let me listen to this one more time:

Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

The reason you won't stand for the national anthem is because your are a follower. Someone with zero backbone. You must have shown respect to our flag in the past but now that the POS Kaepernick is getting press and a few others in the NFL have decided to be followers as well then you want to join in and claim some moral high ground. I doubt anyone here really gives a shit why you feel the need to show disrespect to our country. Go ahead and act like an ass but always remember Donald Trump is POTUS and the cunt crooked hillary is wandering around in the woods.
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OH reeeeallly, Budtender?

I didn't know they arranged the National Anthem In the key of Fuck You Major!!!

Well if one negro sang it, it must be OK then.

Marvin Gaye was tight. But he couldn't run.

WAAAHHHH WAAAAHHHH WAAAHHHH