If anyone can get to the polls and vote then they would also be able to get a state ID. Originally Posted by TheDaliLamaI lost my passport and DL , you do not understand how fucking hard it was to get new ones.
This is not anecdotal. This is Un-American . That people support laws meant to suppress voter participation is pathetic.
Such anecdotal stories are a smoke screen to hide the fact that the vast majority of Americans already possess IDs to utilize government services, and there's nothing prohibitively obstructionist about requiring an ID from everybody to vote. . Originally Posted by I B Hankering
I lost my passport and DL , you do not understand how fucking hard it was to get new ones.
So you and others are full of shit...this crap is about Voter Suppression.
If you are ok with denying hundred of thousands the right to vote you are not worthy of living in this country. Originally Posted by WTF
Before anyone "indicts" and "convicts" the AF/Military it would probably be a good idea to review ALL THE PAPER WORK on the matter, most particularly the final "conviction" and any review of the "conviction" decision.So you are basically making excuses for the Air Force and the shooter.
Scenario EXAMPLE: A finding of "domestic violence" was not included in the final "judgment" (decision) and/or removed on "review" so that a report of the conviction would show an "assault" not involving firearms or deadly weapons....and less than aggravating. (Just an example for all you petty little children who quote folks out of context!)
I've already heard/seen some reporting that gets "dishonorable" confused with "bad conduct" and seemingly purporting and suggesting they are the same. Originally Posted by LexusLover
Difficult to get a replacement DL? Really. I've had to replace mine and it was a piece of cake. Passport may be more of a pain but replacing a DL is about as simple as you can get. Originally Posted by BudmanYes.... I should have stated the Passport without the DL was the pain. In fact it wasn't happening. The DL is just this huge wait in line. Not something I would recommend a 80 year old would want to do.
Okay so Gee , the liberals want more laws, HOWEVER the government that they want to protect us with there's laws can' t follow the law ? The scumbag was Prohibited already from buying guns BUT ( and how many times ) the Federal government Fucked up ( air force or Fbi who knows ?)The only ID one should have to show at the voter booth is a fucking gun!
The only way to stop force is with force...... Originally Posted by rexdutchman
Difficult to get a replacement DL? Really. I've had to replace mine and it was a piece of cake. Passport may be more of a pain but replacing a DL is about as simple as you can get. Originally Posted by BudmanYou probably didn't have any "assessment" or FTA issues!
I lost my passport and DL , you do not understand how fucking hard it was to get new ones.But it wasn't hard to get those documents the first time around.
So you and others are full of shit...this crap is about Voter Suppression.
If you are ok with denying hundred of thousands the right to vote you are not worthy of living in this country. Originally Posted by WTF
Apply for Your New Texas Driver's License
Texas does not require drivers 18 years old and over to have a learner license prior to applying; however, if you are getting your license for the first time, you'll need to have a learner license to practice for your driving test. To learn all about getting a Texas learner's permit, please visit our Driver Permits in TX page.
Once you're ready to apply for your new driver's license, visit your local driver license office and:
Submit a completed Application for Texas Driver License or ID Card (Form DL-14A).
Present appropriate proof of ID. The TX DPS provides a full list of accepted documents, but expect to bring:
Proof of identity, which could include:
- 1 primary document (e.g. passport, military ID, etc.).
- OR
- 2 secondary documents (e.g. birth certificate, Certificate of Birth Abroad, etc.).
- OR
- 1 secondary document AND 2 supporting documents (e.g. Social Security card, voter registration card, 1099, etc.).
This is not anecdotal. This is Un-American . That people support laws meant to suppress voter participation is pathetic.No, it's not un-American. For many years, dating from the colonial period, voters had to be property holders who publicly declared for a candidate in a public setting where neighbors -- who knew the voter by sight -- served as witness to both their vote and their identity.
Hopefully in the future disenfranchised voters come to the polls with their guns and demand their right as a citizen to vote. How ironic would that be.
Instead of making you jump through hoops to vote....all you had to do was actually be a citizen. A novel idea...
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...nap-story.html
It is unlikely that the falloff in turnout is due to a reduction in actual voter fraud. Voter ID laws can only prevent voter impersonation, where someone votes in another person's place. Despite widespread efforts to find such fraud, documented instances are almost nonexistent. Justin Levitt, law professor and now a deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department, tracked voter-impersonation allegations from 2000 through 2014 in all kinds of U.S. elections — general, primary, special and municipal. As of August 2014, he found 31 credible instances out of more than 1 billion votes cast in general and primary elections alone.
The suppression patterns in voter ID states have real political consequences. In states where the voices of Latinos, blacks and Asian Americans become more muted and the relative influence of white America grows, the influence of Democrats and liberals wanes and the power of Republicans grows. It should thus not be surprising that strict voter ID laws have been passed almost exclusively by Republican legislatures.
The political effects are strongest in primary elections. The turnout gap between Republicans and Democrats in primary contests more than doubles from 4.3 points in states without strict ID laws to 9.8 points in states with strict ID laws. Likewise, the gap between conservatives and liberals more than doubles from 7.7 to 20.4 points.
Strict voter ID laws are in effect in about a third of the presidential election battleground states, where they could make a difference in the outcome, especially if the election tightens through the fall. Originally Posted by WTF
Are you faking stupidity ekim you inbred hillbilly, or are you one dumb chimp?It was your argument that focused on the discharge and not the nature of the crime, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
Try grasping this , what was he discharged for? Hint: domestic abuse. Originally Posted by bamscram
Before anyone "indicts" and "convicts" the AF/Military it would probably be a good idea to review ALL THE PAPER WORK on the matter, most particularly the final "conviction" and any review of the "conviction" decision.Remember when the Progs wanted people on the No Fly List to not be able to purchase guns and berated folks for complaining that the NFL had problems and was not reliable.
Scenario EXAMPLE: A finding of "domestic violence" was not included in the final "judgment" (decision) and/or removed on "review" so that a report of the conviction would show an "assault" not involving firearms or deadly weapons....and less than aggravating. (Just an example for all you petty little children who quote folks out of context!)
I've already heard/seen some reporting that gets "dishonorable" confused with "bad conduct" and seemingly purporting and suggesting they are the same. Originally Posted by LexusLover
I lost my passport and DL , you do not understand how fucking hard it was to get new ones.A long time ago you stopped being an amusing moronic buffoon. Now you are just a plain stupid fuck.
So you and others are full of shit...this crap is about Voter Suppression.
If you are ok with denying hundred of thousands the right to vote you are not worthy of living in this country. Originally Posted by WTF