What is the Democrat's position on the securing our borders?

I'm intimately acquainted with both legal immigration and illegal immigration ... it has the same distinction as consensual sex and rape ... aside from THE FACT that one is LEGAL AND THE OTHER ILLEGAL ...

. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Actually , Slavery would be better compared to rape.

Illegal immigrants are here willingly. ..hardly able to compare that to rape.

Just like Austin Ellen is doing her job willingly, hardly can call that rape.

So my comparison was in fact much more comparative than yours. You are stretching your point way beyond believability. Unless you think hookers that willingly do their jobs while breaking the law, are being raped!

I will say any hotel workers Trump is holding against their will is comparative to rape.

Like I said: I'm not lacking in details.

Invading the border illegally is comparative ..

.... to invading a vagina illegally!

Persons tearing down gates while committing aggravated/deadly assault upon police officers and military personnel while attempting to illegally enter a country are comparative to PRICKS!

Now about the Question she asked ...

... any Liberals have a response to the question?

... how about the anti/never Trumpers in here?

... how about those who rely upon illegal immigrants for a living?

Just anyone who is in favor of the illegal immigrants busting into the U.S.

Can someone tell me what their solution to border security is?


Second question - what do the the dems want to do with the folks coming up in the caravan? Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Like I said: I'm not lacking in details.

Invading the border illegally is comparative ..

.... to invading a vagina illegally!

Persons tearing down gates while committing aggravated/deadly assault upon police officers and military personnel while attempting to illegally enter a country are comparative to PRICKS!

Now about the Questions she asked ...

... any Liberals have a response to the question?

... how about the anti/never Trumpers in here?

... how about those who rely upon illegal immigrants for a living?

Just anyone who is in favor of the illegal immigrants busting into the U.S. Originally Posted by LexusLover

3rd Try!

If one really doesn't have a "solution," one can be honest and just say ..... "I don't know what to do!"

Each state will have some differences, but based on some common sense in so far as patters of legislation among the Western states at least (with the exception of California and now Oregon) the following is probably consistent throughout the immediately impacted States along the border with Mexico.

The Texas Education Code says early on as follows:



A thorough reading of the Education Code might disclose some qualifiers and/or language that restricts that rather broad phrase (to say the least), but on the surface ....

.. that would include someone in the jurisdiction or geographical boundaries ILLEGALLY. Originally Posted by LexusLover

And that's what i am disagreeing with. WHY SHOULD the kids of illegal aliens, "Shall have free education provided for them"?

I'm intimately acquainted with both legal immigration and illegal immigration ... it has the same distinction as consensual sex and rape ... aside from THE FACT that one is LEGAL AND THE OTHER ILLEGAL ...

.. But I'm also familiar with the "strawman" argument of the Liberals who want to confuse the two so as to sound reasonable.

I thought for a moment that the omission of "Illegal" was an oversight, but now I see it was not. Originally Posted by LexusLover

That imo is why for years, the left's been attempting to REMOVE the term "illegal alien" from common parlance, and replace it with "Undocumented immigrant" so as to

A) make people think its less of a crime
and B) make it sound like those who still wish to use the IA phrase, are bigots.

... they've been ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist.

Pardoning so they can't be deported is not really making it legal.

Releasing them instead of handing them over to ICE doesn't either.
. Originally Posted by LexusLover

And with the # of times i've read a news article saying something to the effect of "Right after X local prison/court failed to honor an ICE detainer, and released Y illegal alien, that person went on to commit crime Z". I FEEL its high time we started Arresting and charging those who DO said releases/harboring via being a sanctuary city, with being an ACCESSORY to those crimes..

And that's what i am disagreeing with. WHY SHOULD the kids of illegal aliens, "Shall have free education provided for them"? Originally Posted by garhkal

My observation was not focused on "why" ...

... it was on current FACTS.

The existence of the law is a "FACT"! Just a guess ....

... without examining the legislative history (debates and discussions) when the provision of the education code was passed ... I suspect it had NOTHING to do with the offspring of "illegal aliens"!

Just like the 14th amendment didn't!

Beto. Wtf has Cruz done besides helping his rich corporate supporters and talk zhit?

So did every Democrat, right, Fred? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I will concede that point to you, Mr. Rider.

And this is why they will lose. Nothing without mentioning or bashing Trump. Even the Democratic platform cannot refrain from mentioning Trump. Those are some ignorant mofos. If immigration control is left up to the dems...WE ALL GONNA DIE.

3rd Try!

If one really doesn't have a "solution," one can be honest and just say ..... "I don't know what to do!" Originally Posted by LexusLover

If immigration control is left up to the dems...WE ALL GONNA DIE. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

It was while the 911 crew was scouting and training.

"We all" didn't die, but a bunch did and it's cost us a lot of lives and money since then. But "lessons learned" is not their STRONG SUIT!

Beto

If immigration control is left up to the dems...WE ALL GONNA DIE. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

WE ALL GONNA DIE. Regardless!


But you jave a better chance of dying by lightening tjan at the hands of a immigrant and I do not see yall banning lightening:mf_laughb ounce2:

How can a person tell what a large group position is when you won't look for yourself and you've already made up your mind?
You're so worried about the democrats that you've forgotten which party has power and which party has done nothing about our borders with that power. (hint, the answer is the same party) The wall isn't a real solution. Because we have to pay for it. If you want a solution you think someone else will pay for why stop at a wall? Have them throw in 100,000 troops and the money to keep them there for 5 years
Why would trumpys ever believe Mexico would pay for it? Because trump said so?

I get it, this is one of those things he needed to lie about.

Second question? Follow the law. Give them the chance to claim asylum.

Don't like that option?

The republicans should have changed it. While they could.

Now trump will have the perfect excuse. The democrats will take the house and trump will blame everything on them.
Oh, wait. He already does that.
Since congress will go from unpassable bills to gridlock, and since idle hands are the devil's workshop, let the investigations begin.

The republicans had 2 years to do something.
They gave trump a huge tax break. And did their best to cover his ass.

They couldn't even put Hilary in jail. It looks like trump will beat her again. His suit will match his hair.

Can someone tell me what their solution to border security is? All I hear and see is ---Attack Trump.


Second question - what do the the dems want to do with the folks coming up in the caravan? I have heard no solutions from that party at all concerning the caravan. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

If not trump, who?

Should they mention Clinton?

You want trump to get all credit, much of which he had nothing to do with, but you want him to not get blame, but to place it.
You all miss the fact the republicans were in power with the presidency and congress. You guys do know how new laws are made....I guess not.

trump is mentioned because he was too busy playing golf to help move immigration reform. Healthcare reform. You know, his job.

And now while complaining about immigration that congress did nothing about for 2 years, you claim the democrats are going to drop the ball.

Can you see why the house is going to change hands? You have said nothing about any blame for trump or congress other than it's the democrats fault, you accept his bullshit and lies, and you make excuses for him.
It isn't the democrats kissing 'lil kim's ass or Putin's.

And this is why they will lose. Nothing without mentioning or bashing Trump. Even the Democratic platform cannot refrain from mentioning Trump. Those are some ignorant mofos. If immigration control is left up to the dems...WE ALL GONNA DIE. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

You could avoid people thinking you are truth-challenged by posting links to this information that vilifies or demeans a significant portion of the US population.
For somebody who doesn't know the most basic concepts of the burden of proof in our court system, I will never accept your baseless and linkless pronouncements without verifiable proof. You provide opinion as fact on a regular basis. I'll continue to include links because they cover my ass.
If you want to know if a woman in Austin got hit with a bullet, look it up yourself.

... they've been ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist.

Pardoning so they can't be deported is not really making it legal.

Releasing them instead of handing them over to ICE doesn't either.

Nor does creating "safe havens" them "make it legal."

It's colluding with criminals and facilitating their escape. Originally Posted by LexusLover

You could avoid people thinking you are truth-challenged by posting links to this information that vilifies or demeans a significant portion of the US population.
For somebody who doesn't know the most basic concepts of the burden of proof in our court system, I will never accept your baseless and linkless pronouncements without verifiable proof. You provide opinion as fact on a regular basis. I'll continue to include links because they cover my ass.
If you want to know if a woman in Austin got hit with a bullet, look it up yourself. Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

OK... OKEY-DOKE