- Tsmokies
- 11-06-2018, 12:36 PM
Smart educated intelligent Jewish leaders don't want anything to do with trump??? Who would have ever thought that smart educated intelligent people would want nothing to do with a fkn idiot pos.
- Wakeup
- 11-06-2018, 12:37 PM
Warnings have been issued. Points are next. Stay on topic.
- lustylad
- 11-06-2018, 12:51 PM
More truth from Dan Greenfield...
If the Synagogue Shooter Were Muslim, the Media Would Be Defending Him
The double standard on Nazi and Muslim anti-Semitic violence.
October 30, 2018
Daniel Greenfield
Two types of people plot attacks against Jewish synagogues and community centers: Nazis and Muslims.
In 1999, Buford O. Furrow, a white supremacist, opened fire at a Jewish Community Center in the Los Angeles area. He wounded three little boys, their teenage female counselor and an elderly female receptionist. He told the FBI that he wanted this to be "a wake-up call to America to kill Jews."
While Furrow was carrying out his attack, President William Jefferson Clinton was in the White House.
In 2000, Ali Hassan Abu Kamal and Mazin Assi attempted to firebomb a synagogue in New York.
“A bias-motivated attempt to firebomb a synagogue?” the New York Times wondered. “Or a misguided message critical of Israeli policies against Palestinians?”
In 2006, Naveed Afzal Haq used a teenage girl as a hostage to force his way into the Seattle Jewish Federation where he shot 6 women. The Muslim attacker shouted, “You Jews” at the non-Jewish marketing director and shot her in the stomach. The bookkeeper went into cardiac arrest, died at the scene, was revived and died again on the operating table and still lived to testify at Haq's trial.
"I want these Jews to get out,” Haq could be heard shouting on the phone.
The media attempted to portray Haq as mentally ill. The local alternative paper insisted that his “his anti-Semitic rhetoric” was just a “veneer” on “a man disturbed by feelings of inadequacy and rejection.”
In 2009, James Wenneker von Brunn, a white supremacist, opened fire at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. His rhetoric, claiming that Obama was controlled by the Jews, closely echoed the more recent Squirrel Hill synagogue shooter’s rants about Trump being controlled by the Jews.
This would be one of two major anti-Semitic attacks by neo-Nazis during the Obama years.
That same year, another major anti-Semitic terror plot was broken up by the FBI. But this time the perpetrators were Muslims and the media coverage couldn’t have been more different.
“Look at the Jewish guy. You’re not smiling no more, you f___r. I hate those bastards. I hate those m______s. Those f____g Jewish bastards. I’d like to get one of those. I’d like to get a synagogue. Me. Yeah. Personally,” Abdul Rahman, also known as James Cromitie, had ranted.
The targets of the Muslim terrorists known as the Newburgh Four had been two synagogues. And the media took the side of the anti-Semitic terrorists.
"Newburgh Four: poor, black, and jailed under FBI 'entrapment' tactics," The Guardian had wept. NPR, The Nation, Mother Jones and BuzzFeed all wrote sympathetically of the synagogue terrorists.
Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept simpered over Cromitie as "an impoverished African-American Muslim convert" who "had never evinced any inclination to participate in a violent attack".
That’s quite a description of the man who had bragged, “With no hesitation, I will kill 10 Jews.”
HBO aired a documentary, The Newburgh Sting, supportive of the synagogue terrorists. It won a Peabody Award.
In 2011, Ahmed Ferhani was arrested after plotting to blow up “the biggest synagogue” in Manhattan. Along with Mohamed Mamdouh, he had considered dressing up as a Hassidic Jew and attacking a synagogue with a gun and a grenade.
“I intended to create chaos and send a message of intimidation and coercion to the Jewish population of New York City,” Ferhani admitted at his trial.
Ferhani was defended by Linda Sarsour and many on the Left. Just two years ago, The Nation headlined a sympathetic piece about the synagogue terrorist as, “A Muslim Man Was Ensnared in a Terror Plot by the NYPD - He Just Attempted Suicide”. The Huffington Post ran a post titled, “An Entrapped Muslim Man Just Attempted Suicide, But Does Anyone Care?”
Both media outlets have accused President Trump of somehow being complicit in the latest synagogue shooting when they are actually the ones who continue to be complicit in anti-Semitic violence.
“The Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting Is the Inevitable Result of Trump’s Vile Nationalism,” The Nation shrieks. This is the same vile rag which has repeatedly defended Muslim synagogue terrorists.
In 2014, Frazier Glenn Miller, a white supremacist, opened fire at the Overland Park Jewish Community Center. He murdered three people. Afterward he shouted, “Heil Hitler”.
Miller had earlier stated, “I have a great deal of admiration for Louis Farrakhan,” and admired Iran’s leader because, “he tells the truth about the Jews.”
The only thing he regretted is that all of his victims turned out not to be Jewish.
All this happened under Barack Obama. And Miller had expressed a certain implausible liking for Obama. Like Miller, Obama also had an affinity for Farrakhan, having posed with him, and for Iranian leaders.
There are two groups that plot terrorist attacks against Jewish synagogues and centers in America and Europe: Nazis and Muslims.
The media unequivocally condemns Nazis, but equivocates when the attackers are Muslims.
When a Nazi attacks a synagogue, the media blames Republicans. But when a Muslim attacks a synagogue, the media will claim that he was a mentally ill man entrapped by the FBI. Buford O. Furrow and Robert Bowers are monsters, but Abdul Rahman and Ahmed Ferhani are victims.
President Trump has never expressed an ounce of sympathy for Bowers. Instead he firmly demanded justice. “Anybody who does this deserves the death penalty. When people do this they should get the death penalty and they shouldn’t have to wait years and years. Now the lawyers are going to get involved and we’ll be ten years down the line. Anybody that does this to innocent people who are in temple or in church, should pay the ultimate price.”
It’s the media which has repeatedly expressed sympathy for synagogue terrorists.
The same media busy blaming the Squirrel Hill synagogue attack on Trump would have been defending the terrorist if his name had been Rahman instead of Robert.
And the media has two things in common with the Squirrel Hill synagogue shooter.
Robert Bowers hated Trump. And he hated the Jews in the Trump administration. “Trump is surrounded by kikes,” he complained.
The media responded to Bowers’ attack by going after Jews.
The Atlantic decided to publish an execrable blood libel by Franklin Foer which called for "shunning Trump’s Jewish enablers. Their money should be refused, their presence in synagogues not welcome." Julia Ioffe, who had previously been fired for a Trump incest tweet, but was hired anyway by GQ, accused Trump of being responsible for the synagogue shooting. But not before blaming pro-Israel Jews.
The media isn’t just exploiting the murder of Jews to attack Trump. It’s even sickeningly exploiting the murder of Jews to attack Jews.
That isn’t opposing anti-Semitism. It’s engaging in it.
When you oppose anti-Semitism, then you oppose the murder of Jews. By Nazis and by Muslims.
By anyone. Period.
The Left’s position on the murder of Jews is wholly politically opportunistic. It opposed the murder of Jews by Hitler, and supported the murder of Jews by Stalin. And now it opposes the murder of Jews by neo-Nazis and supports the murder of Jews by Islamic terrorists.
Its moral preening after the Squirrel Hill shootings is the posturing of a depraved movement.
The same journalists and activists lecturing on Trump’s complicity in the massacre were outraged when he cut funding to the Palestinian Authority terrorists who are being paid to murder Jews.
On a November four years ago, two Muslim terrorists entered a synagogue in Har Nof, Jerusalem.
They used axes, knives and a gun to murder four Rabbis, three of them Americans. Photos showed a floor covered in blood and torn prayer books.
The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine which took responsibility for the attack is popular on college campuses. Its signage is often displayed by campus hate groups like Students for Justice in Palestine. British leftist leader Jeremy Corbyn was photographed with the attack mastermind.
And the payments to the terrorists continued, paid for with foreign aid from the United States.
President Trump has called for ruthless action against the Muslim and Neo-Nazi murderers of Jews. If the media wants to sincerely oppose anti-Semitism, it could take a lesson from him.
Or it can go on exploiting the Neo-Nazi murder of Jews to promote the agenda of the Islamist murderers of Jews.
If the Synagogue Shooter Were Muslim, the Media Would Be Defending Him
The double standard on Nazi and Muslim anti-Semitic violence.
October 30, 2018
Daniel Greenfield
Two types of people plot attacks against Jewish synagogues and community centers: Nazis and Muslims.
In 1999, Buford O. Furrow, a white supremacist, opened fire at a Jewish Community Center in the Los Angeles area. He wounded three little boys, their teenage female counselor and an elderly female receptionist. He told the FBI that he wanted this to be "a wake-up call to America to kill Jews."
While Furrow was carrying out his attack, President William Jefferson Clinton was in the White House.
In 2000, Ali Hassan Abu Kamal and Mazin Assi attempted to firebomb a synagogue in New York.
“A bias-motivated attempt to firebomb a synagogue?” the New York Times wondered. “Or a misguided message critical of Israeli policies against Palestinians?”
In 2006, Naveed Afzal Haq used a teenage girl as a hostage to force his way into the Seattle Jewish Federation where he shot 6 women. The Muslim attacker shouted, “You Jews” at the non-Jewish marketing director and shot her in the stomach. The bookkeeper went into cardiac arrest, died at the scene, was revived and died again on the operating table and still lived to testify at Haq's trial.
"I want these Jews to get out,” Haq could be heard shouting on the phone.
The media attempted to portray Haq as mentally ill. The local alternative paper insisted that his “his anti-Semitic rhetoric” was just a “veneer” on “a man disturbed by feelings of inadequacy and rejection.”
In 2009, James Wenneker von Brunn, a white supremacist, opened fire at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. His rhetoric, claiming that Obama was controlled by the Jews, closely echoed the more recent Squirrel Hill synagogue shooter’s rants about Trump being controlled by the Jews.
This would be one of two major anti-Semitic attacks by neo-Nazis during the Obama years.
That same year, another major anti-Semitic terror plot was broken up by the FBI. But this time the perpetrators were Muslims and the media coverage couldn’t have been more different.
“Look at the Jewish guy. You’re not smiling no more, you f___r. I hate those bastards. I hate those m______s. Those f____g Jewish bastards. I’d like to get one of those. I’d like to get a synagogue. Me. Yeah. Personally,” Abdul Rahman, also known as James Cromitie, had ranted.
The targets of the Muslim terrorists known as the Newburgh Four had been two synagogues. And the media took the side of the anti-Semitic terrorists.
"Newburgh Four: poor, black, and jailed under FBI 'entrapment' tactics," The Guardian had wept. NPR, The Nation, Mother Jones and BuzzFeed all wrote sympathetically of the synagogue terrorists.
Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept simpered over Cromitie as "an impoverished African-American Muslim convert" who "had never evinced any inclination to participate in a violent attack".
That’s quite a description of the man who had bragged, “With no hesitation, I will kill 10 Jews.”
HBO aired a documentary, The Newburgh Sting, supportive of the synagogue terrorists. It won a Peabody Award.
In 2011, Ahmed Ferhani was arrested after plotting to blow up “the biggest synagogue” in Manhattan. Along with Mohamed Mamdouh, he had considered dressing up as a Hassidic Jew and attacking a synagogue with a gun and a grenade.
“I intended to create chaos and send a message of intimidation and coercion to the Jewish population of New York City,” Ferhani admitted at his trial.
Ferhani was defended by Linda Sarsour and many on the Left. Just two years ago, The Nation headlined a sympathetic piece about the synagogue terrorist as, “A Muslim Man Was Ensnared in a Terror Plot by the NYPD - He Just Attempted Suicide”. The Huffington Post ran a post titled, “An Entrapped Muslim Man Just Attempted Suicide, But Does Anyone Care?”
Both media outlets have accused President Trump of somehow being complicit in the latest synagogue shooting when they are actually the ones who continue to be complicit in anti-Semitic violence.
“The Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting Is the Inevitable Result of Trump’s Vile Nationalism,” The Nation shrieks. This is the same vile rag which has repeatedly defended Muslim synagogue terrorists.
In 2014, Frazier Glenn Miller, a white supremacist, opened fire at the Overland Park Jewish Community Center. He murdered three people. Afterward he shouted, “Heil Hitler”.
Miller had earlier stated, “I have a great deal of admiration for Louis Farrakhan,” and admired Iran’s leader because, “he tells the truth about the Jews.”
The only thing he regretted is that all of his victims turned out not to be Jewish.
All this happened under Barack Obama. And Miller had expressed a certain implausible liking for Obama. Like Miller, Obama also had an affinity for Farrakhan, having posed with him, and for Iranian leaders.
There are two groups that plot terrorist attacks against Jewish synagogues and centers in America and Europe: Nazis and Muslims.
The media unequivocally condemns Nazis, but equivocates when the attackers are Muslims.
When a Nazi attacks a synagogue, the media blames Republicans. But when a Muslim attacks a synagogue, the media will claim that he was a mentally ill man entrapped by the FBI. Buford O. Furrow and Robert Bowers are monsters, but Abdul Rahman and Ahmed Ferhani are victims.
President Trump has never expressed an ounce of sympathy for Bowers. Instead he firmly demanded justice. “Anybody who does this deserves the death penalty. When people do this they should get the death penalty and they shouldn’t have to wait years and years. Now the lawyers are going to get involved and we’ll be ten years down the line. Anybody that does this to innocent people who are in temple or in church, should pay the ultimate price.”
It’s the media which has repeatedly expressed sympathy for synagogue terrorists.
The same media busy blaming the Squirrel Hill synagogue attack on Trump would have been defending the terrorist if his name had been Rahman instead of Robert.
And the media has two things in common with the Squirrel Hill synagogue shooter.
Robert Bowers hated Trump. And he hated the Jews in the Trump administration. “Trump is surrounded by kikes,” he complained.
The media responded to Bowers’ attack by going after Jews.
The Atlantic decided to publish an execrable blood libel by Franklin Foer which called for "shunning Trump’s Jewish enablers. Their money should be refused, their presence in synagogues not welcome." Julia Ioffe, who had previously been fired for a Trump incest tweet, but was hired anyway by GQ, accused Trump of being responsible for the synagogue shooting. But not before blaming pro-Israel Jews.
The media isn’t just exploiting the murder of Jews to attack Trump. It’s even sickeningly exploiting the murder of Jews to attack Jews.
That isn’t opposing anti-Semitism. It’s engaging in it.
When you oppose anti-Semitism, then you oppose the murder of Jews. By Nazis and by Muslims.
By anyone. Period.
The Left’s position on the murder of Jews is wholly politically opportunistic. It opposed the murder of Jews by Hitler, and supported the murder of Jews by Stalin. And now it opposes the murder of Jews by neo-Nazis and supports the murder of Jews by Islamic terrorists.
Its moral preening after the Squirrel Hill shootings is the posturing of a depraved movement.
The same journalists and activists lecturing on Trump’s complicity in the massacre were outraged when he cut funding to the Palestinian Authority terrorists who are being paid to murder Jews.
On a November four years ago, two Muslim terrorists entered a synagogue in Har Nof, Jerusalem.
They used axes, knives and a gun to murder four Rabbis, three of them Americans. Photos showed a floor covered in blood and torn prayer books.
The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine which took responsibility for the attack is popular on college campuses. Its signage is often displayed by campus hate groups like Students for Justice in Palestine. British leftist leader Jeremy Corbyn was photographed with the attack mastermind.
And the payments to the terrorists continued, paid for with foreign aid from the United States.
President Trump has called for ruthless action against the Muslim and Neo-Nazi murderers of Jews. If the media wants to sincerely oppose anti-Semitism, it could take a lesson from him.
Or it can go on exploiting the Neo-Nazi murder of Jews to promote the agenda of the Islamist murderers of Jews.
- Yssup Rider
- 11-06-2018, 12:52 PM
They asked him not to come. He went anyway. We’re you expecting it to be like one of his “rallies” Originally Posted by themysticIt was a day of mourning. All the victims hadn't yet been put to rest. As a man learned of all things Jewish, as so many seem to claim on his behalf, you'd think he'd know this was NOT his decision to make, but the families'.
Mr. Sensitivity decided to barge into this scene and grandstand.
Suppose he thought it was his right, since the bomber and shooter (a Trumpite and a fucking Nazi) had stolen his momentum, as he whined earlier.
And yet, the OP derided the community as "Ungrateful Jewish Leaders."
Guess what. That's a highly offensive narrative, as is the racially charged equivocation by the post before this, penned by the same author in LL's previous unsubstantiated post.
However, with some quick searching it appears that LL is posting BS from a HATE GROUP FAR RIGHT BLOG, per this link. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/frontpage-magazine/
Here's what it says:
No wonder LL didn't reveal the source of his past two articles. Now he gets to own them.
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE
A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, overt propaganda, poor or no sourcing to credible information and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the notes section for that source. See all Questionable sources.
Bias: Extreme Right, Hate Group
Notes: FrontPage Magazine is an online conservative political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a non-profit organization in Los Angeles, California. This source has a pretty strong right wing bias in reporting that often is negative toward minorities and Islam. Frontpage Magazine is also listed on the Islamophobia Network. The Southern Poverty Law Center has this magazine labeled as an anti-Muslim. (10/7/2016) Updated (7/19/2017)
Special Note: We provide a link below to their website for the purpose of our Chrome Extensions, which requires a link to the website in order to display on Facebook and the Chrome task bar. We recommend not clicking the link. (D. Van Zandt)
Source: http://www.frontpagemag.com/
- friendly fred
- 11-06-2018, 12:53 PM
Talk about a hateful article! That one takes the kichel.It was an excellent article setting the record straight.
Pity I can't read it anywhere but in lustylad's unsubstantiated DOGWHISTLE post.
Your point is ...
OHHH! It's the Jews = Israel thing. Did I get it right?
How about the Farrakhan dog whistle? Oh! It's in there too!
Saul Alinksy? Why not?
Read up, amigo.
And please link to the source. Seems like an opinion piece by a disgruntled, frustrated Jewish righty.
We do have them, you know. Just like there are a few liberal (fill in the blanks for people who don't fit your definition). Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
I'm glad it was published.
- Austin Ellen
- 11-06-2018, 12:59 PM
I thought it was an excellent article too. Very informative.
- Yssup Rider
- 11-06-2018, 01:03 PM
I thought it was an excellent article too. Very informative. Originally Posted by Austin EllenYou like the views of far right biased hate groups, Ellen? That's where the article originated.
Again...
QUESTIONABLE SOURCEStill think it's excellent?
A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, overt propaganda, poor or no sourcing to credible information and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the notes section for that source. See all Questionable sources.
Bias: Extreme Right, Hate Group
Notes: FrontPage Magazine is an online conservative political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a non-profit organization in Los Angeles, California. This source has a pretty strong right wing bias in reporting that often is negative toward minorities and Islam. Frontpage Magazine is also listed on the Islamophobia Network. The Southern Poverty Law Center has this magazine labeled as an anti-Muslim. (10/7/2016) Updated (7/19/2017)
Special Note: We provide a link below to their website for the purpose of our Chrome Extensions, which requires a link to the website in order to display on Facebook and the Chrome task bar. We recommend not clicking the link. (D. Van Zandt)
Source: http://www.frontpagemag.com/
- lustylad
- 11-06-2018, 01:08 PM
Talk about a hateful article! That one takes the kichel.Wow.
Pity I can't read it anywhere but in lustylad's unsubstantiated DOGWHISTLE post... Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
How can it possibly be deemed "hateful" to call out the haters on the left??
By the way... when you speak the truth with a megaphone, it's the opposite of a "dog whistle".
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
- Yssup Rider
- 11-06-2018, 01:11 PM
Wow.Not me. I've got the truth on my side, LL.
How can it possibly be deemed "hateful" to call out the haters on the left??
By the way... when you speak the truth with a megaphone, it's the opposite of a dog whistle.
The truth hurts, doesn't it? Originally Posted by lustylad
Why didn't you cite the source of those two articles?
And does this mean you agree with the OP that the Pittsburgh Jewish leaders were "ungrateful?"
- lustylad
- 11-06-2018, 01:24 PM
Why didn't you cite the source of those two articles? Originally Posted by Yssup RiderHahaha.... why do you always whine about the source? Because you know you can't refute the substance? Anyone can google Dan Greenfield and find his excellent website containing all of his writings. Heck, you just did it yourself!
So what does your "source" research tell you about the far-left, anti-Trump hatefest organizers, If Not Now? Greenfield calls it a "marginal hate group, animated by its animosity to the Jewish State and to Jewishness". Do you agree?
- Yssup Rider
- 11-06-2018, 01:36 PM
I asked you first.
- lustylad
- 11-06-2018, 01:48 PM
And does this mean you agree with the OP that the Pittsburgh Jewish leaders were "ungrateful?" Originally Posted by Yssup RiderBend the Arc is anything but a mouthpiece for "Pittsburgh Jewish leaders". Trust me, I live here.
Did you miss this part of the Greenfield article?
"The If Not Now march joined forces with another march by Bend the Arc. The media had initially misreported a statement by the leftist group that President Trump was not welcome in Pittsburgh as a declaration by “Jewish leaders”. In reality, Bend the Arc is headed by Stosh Cotler, an anti-Israel activist and former sex club dancer. Its PAC was set up by the son of George Soros."
Former sex club dancer Stosh Cotler is NOT from Pittsburgh.
- friendly fred
- 11-07-2018, 05:55 AM
Bend the Arc is anything but a mouthpiece for "Pittsburgh Jewish leaders". Trust me, I live here.I think you have defeated Mr. Rider on this point. He should concede, just like Andrew Gillum honorably conceded in Florida!!!
Did you miss this part of the Greenfield article?
"The If Not Now march joined forces with another march by Bend the Arc. The media had initially misreported a statement by the leftist group that President Trump was not welcome in Pittsburgh as a declaration by “Jewish leaders”. In reality, Bend the Arc is headed by Stosh Cotler, an anti-Israel activist and former sex club dancer. Its PAC was set up by the son of George Soros."
Former sex club dancer Stosh Cotler is NOT from Pittsburgh. Originally Posted by lustylad
- dilbert firestorm
- 11-07-2018, 08:01 AM
Dennis Prager has this to say about Left wing Jews (real termites).
he says that these people were the most destructive force known to humanity.
https://townhall.com/columnists/denn...agedy-n2535218
he says that these people were the most destructive force known to humanity.
https://townhall.com/columnists/denn...agedy-n2535218
- Yssup Rider
- 11-07-2018, 08:04 AM
Can the anti-Semitic comments, fellas.
Not a single one of you have explained why the Jewish Leaders in Pittsburgh are ungrateful as the OP states.
All I see is an outpouring of extreme right wing propaganda by a confirmed hate blog.
Df has taken it yet another step by agreeing with yet another racially charged piece of provocation.
It’s tired fellas. Leave it alone.
Not a single one of you have explained why the Jewish Leaders in Pittsburgh are ungrateful as the OP states.
All I see is an outpouring of extreme right wing propaganda by a confirmed hate blog.
Df has taken it yet another step by agreeing with yet another racially charged piece of provocation.
It’s tired fellas. Leave it alone.