Why do democrats wnat to shut down the govt.?

LOL.

You got played. Democrats are on record how bad it is to shutdown the govt. and now there is a clean CR.

Why won't they vote for the clean CR but would for the one that gave themselves a 40% raise, exempted them from Obamacare, and shielded their electronic communications from legal subpoena?

LOL

It has mostly to do with the debt ceiling. The CR suspends the debt ceiling for the next two years. If the democrats give that up they lose a great bit of leverage when dealing with the new majority .

Is it really so clean?

From the New York Times.
Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic leader in the House, previously said he opposed Trump’s push to raise the debt ceiling, and many Republicans have voiced discomfort with it as well. It is not yet clear if the proposal that House Republican leaders plan to offer would have the votes to pass in the House or the Democratic-led Senate. (The debt limit is suspended until Jan. 1.)

So Democrats would rather play politics and shut down the government? They keep telling us how bad that would be...

They can own it. LOL

So Democrats would rather play politics and shut down the government? They keep telling us how bad that would be...

They can own it. LOL Originally Posted by texassapper

There was a bipartisan bill that was agreed to. A bad bill but bipartisan. Musk and Trump blew it up. No one likes bipartisan spending bills because they are usually full of pork. But if someone needs to own this it’s Musk and Trump that will do so.

There was a bipartisan bill that was agreed to. A bad bill but bipartisan. Musk and Trump blew it up. No one likes bipartisan spending bills because they are usually full of pork. But if someone needs to own this it’s Musk and Trump that will do so. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

interesting. so Trump and Musk own killing a typical pork barrel spending nonsense CR


good for them. they deserve the credit for stopping that sort of bullshit. the republicans need to return to their fiscal conservative stance they abandoned decades ago

Aka, blame the other guy and slip in some perks for the new team.

Isn't this a script that repeats and repeats and repeats and repeats and...

Clearly republicans are going to cut off their Johnson over this.

There was a bipartisan bill that was agreed to. A bad bill but bipartisan. Musk and Trump blew it up. No one likes bipartisan spending bills because they are usually full of pork. But if someone needs to own this it’s Musk and Trump that will do so. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

So you're saying Trump and Musk blew up a bad spending bill and that's bad because....? lol

Because the majority of Congress agreed that it wasn't bad.

Snick

Clearly republicans are going to cut off their Johnson over this. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

cut the demonrat's Johnson off

Because the majority of Congress agreed that it wasn't bad.

Snick Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

if you say so

It seems to me that Trump and Musk aren’t aware that they are not the President.

It also seems to me that Republican congressmen are pussies for listening to Trump’s tweets rather than doing their jobs.

Isn’t it sad that republicans are so afraid of their own constituents and Donald Trump that they are willing to let the government fail.

It seems to me that Trump and Musk aren’t aware that they are not the President.

It also seems to me that Republican congressmen are pussies for listening to Trump’s tweets rather than doing their jobs.

Isn’t it sad that republicans are so afraid of their own constituents and Donald Trump that they are willing to let the government fail. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

seems to me you agreed with me the bill was pork barrel crap

yes?

I hate to agree with Waco but some of the pork in this bill is extremely egregious.

This especially.

Provisions raising congressional pay and allowing members of Congress to opt out of the Affordable Care Act.

"They all want the [pay raise] and actual health insurance but don't want to vote for them," one House Republican told Axios. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

seems to me you agreed with me the bill was pork barrel crap

yes? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

I do but I want to be pissed at congress rather than El Schitzenpants and the flying monkey. (Trump and Musk)

There is no good reason for congress to be in disarray because Trump and Musk are egotistical assholes.

I do but I want to be pissed at congress rather than El Schitzenpants and the flying monkey. (Trump and Musk)

There is no good reason for congress to be in disarray because Trump and Musk are egotistical assholes. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

yes there is you just don't understand why

yes there is you just don't understand why Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Then please explain why a Congress in disarray and a government shutdown is good for the economy and the country.