Haggling

Time for Mr. Hobby...AGAIN!

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6695...ker-v-hobbyist

MAX is a Benz! Girl I gotta hit you up... Originally Posted by London Rayne

Thanks, sexy.....

SNL...too cute....thanks for the giggle....'-)

Haggling is for people in third world countries. This is America, where the price is the price. Originally Posted by Biomech

Car salesmen must love you. Anyhow, like I said, I don't haggle. Just wondering if it was prevalent. Originally Posted by manoffewwords

I'll listen to some negotiations. A lot of the time those work out in both the client's and SP's favour if it is reasonable.
Haggling is untactful but I expect it. I don't get that pissed off about it. Everyone looks for a deal and you'll never know if you don't ask. Originally Posted by Shayla

I personally don't haggle, but that is contrary to how I deal with anything but the hobby. Providers: do you deliver a sub par effort if the client has haggled at all? Even if they were unsuccessful and gave in to your price, do you still feel ill will? Or do you not take anything unless you're willing to give 100% for the price? Originally Posted by manoffewwords

I think Naomi, London, and Shayla could def be considered Audi. As for Kia... hmmmm I don't really have to say, I think we all know many that would fall in that category. Not that there is anything wrong with Kia, it can get you to point B too lol

sixx Originally Posted by sixxbach

The few times I've done this, I walk in look for a spot to land the package and don't look at it again. The idea of donation is the most uncomfortable aspect of this whole thing to me. So I can see why haggling would be such a turn off to a provider. In fact I've seen a few girls where it was never mentioned. She had it stated on her website or whatever and I just went with that. Originally Posted by acp5762

Hi,

I just couldn't hold my tongue on this topic....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bargaining

Bargaining or haggling is a type of negotiation in which the buyer and seller of a good or service dispute the price which will be paid and the exact nature of the transaction that will take place, and eventually come to an agreement.

Bargaining is an alternative pricing strategy to fixed prices.

Optimally, if it costs the retailer nothing to engage and allow bargaining, he can divine the buyer's willingness to spend. It allows for capturing more consumer surplus as it allows price discrimination, a process whereby a seller can charge a higher price to one buyer who is more eager (by being richer or more desperate).

Haggling has largely disappeared in parts of the world where the cost to haggle exceeds the gain to retailers for most common retail items. However, for expensive goods sold to uninformed buyers such as automobiles, bargaining can remain commonplace.


Another example.....Would you haggle with your travel agent? What you would most likely ask or say is ....Can you please find me the lowest rate to fly or, etc... to the destination that I would like to visit.

In North America and Europe bargaining is restricted to expensive or one-of-a-kind items (automobiles, jewellery, art, real estate, trade sales of businesses) and informal sales settings such as flea markets and garage sales. In other regions of the world bargaining may be the norm even for small commercial transactions.

In Indonesia and elsewhere in Asia where locals haggle for goods and services everywhere from street markets to hotels, haggling is a strong cultural tradition that even children learn from a young age. Participating in that tradition can make foreigners feel accepted.[1] Haggling for food items is strongly discouraged in Southeast Asia and is considered an insult, because food is seen a common necessity that is not to be treated as a tradable good.

So say, you haggle with a escort that has "little" ones to feed or an elderly one to take care of ......that is an insult.......

Many cultures take offence when they perceive the other side as having started bargaining too soon. This offence is usually as a result of their wanting to first create value for longer before they bargain together. The Chinese culture by contrast places a much higher value on taking time to build a business relationship before starting to create value or bargain. Not understanding when to start bargaining has ruined many an otherwise positive business negotiation.[3]


Now, to your question....yes, I will bargain and give my all to someone that has been doing business with me for awhile......but for a new client to make contact requesting a "bargain" because he read so and so posted such and such......not knowing that maybe so and so has been a long time business associate....

I think I will have to wait and see if he is really serious about seeing me or if he is just looking for a cheap "thrill," if he is just looking for a cheap "thrill," I will have to pass on his offer!

And my question is.......Do you feel he(new client) has a right to haggle or request a bargain?

Sincerely,
Wet

I agree with you on London and Naomi...don't know Shayla. Originally Posted by M A X

I know Shayla, MAX. I can vouch that she is definitively of Audi type....but Jaguar would be even more accurate.

Hey hey Audis are nice but I prefer not to be compared to a car.

Why is it inappropriate to negotiate with a provider? Most people negotiate the price of a car, home, what they pay their nanny to take care of their kids, price of a wedding venue, cable services, etc. I provide a musical service and am haggled all the time. It is a part of doing business. There is a rock bottom that I won't go for example but at the end of the day as long as I still make a profit, I am ok with that.

I just find it funny that we negotiate prices with all kinds of business but when it comes to the business of pussy, its in bad taste!

sixx Originally Posted by sixxbach

Love me some Sixx! Well said friend.

Well, if you want half the price expect half the service. I can't be 100 percent for less. Oh, and I can't keep my mouth shut for less either...that's what's really significant lol. Originally Posted by London Rayne

I couldn't even agree to half the price. I pride myself in good service each and everytime. I don't believe in the off day crap and I don't why others fall for it too. If I am having an "off" day, I'm not booking any dates or even answering emails. I wouldn't agree to a lower rate then have the guy show up and half ass him. It's best to just tell him before he gets there "NO."

I have 2 mortgages, a child I raise alone, student loans, and so much more bs to pay for. I am not a 19 yr. old in a one or two bedroom apt. that rents for less than a grand. If I were, I could afford to play around but I am looking out for my future and that of my family. I am a business person....period. Just because I enjoy the travel and the guys, does not mean I am stupid about it. I don't get caught up in anything. My real gig won't even pay enough for a good 3 years, so that's what I have on my plate. Originally Posted by London Rayne

............and you're the only one I know crazy enough to have a 4k a month mortgage. Kudos!

LOL some will beg to differ. Aren't these men's "needs" we take care of. Originally Posted by Shayla

Honey, you've been misinformed. Pussy is not a need. Men do not need pussy to survive, it's a want/a luxury item.

her i LOVE

Something about you that I like....

sixx Originally Posted by sixxbach

often a provider will call or post specials. why because business is slow and she has bills to pay. if a guy wishes to partake but may not have the requested funds if asking in a tactful way perhaps the provider in questions may be in needs of funds that will allow her to consider an offer she might not otherwise. its funny all the girls claim its a business and your paying for the time like you would a store clerk, laborer doctor or dentist but when someone suggests a lower price now this is such a personal thing. people say you would not haggle with a doctor or dentist but believe me that what health care / insurance companies do every day if a doctor will not accept x payment from said insurance company he does not get the work. the same girls that are so insulted probably wheeled and dealed for their cars and houses and scour the internet for cut rate deals on their hotels rather than paying rack rate. i do not believe in haggling alot but i also realize this.. a womans company and the rental of her body is much like a hotel room or airline seat. both are very valuable to both the seller and buyer but come tommorow when the plane has left or the room goes unbooked the value is 0. how many times might a woman who charges 400 hr be better off taking 300 at midnight rather than watch the tonight show and wake up with nothing. just a thought

of the hottest women on this planet and by all accounts well worth her requested donation which if she ever came to my area i would gladly pay her her normal donation. i also realize there is more i would love to do with her than 1 hour could ever allow and financially i probably could not swing a 3 hr date. if suggesting a fair rate for multiple hours it may allow me to afford living out a dream and may make sense to the provider as its simply easier and more cost effective than doing 3 seperate appointments. if i asked i would ask in a respectful and courteous way and if the answer was no would enjoy every second of the time that i could afford. if more people acted responsibly to themselves and those we do business with the country might be in better shape.

I'll listen to some negotiations. A lot of the time those work out in both the client's and SP's favour if it is reasonable.
Haggling is untactful but I expect it. I don't get that pissed off about it. Everyone looks for a deal and you'll never know if you don't ask. Originally Posted by Shayla

.. a womans company and the rental of her body is much like a hotel room or airline seat. both are very valuable to both the seller and buyer but come tommorow when the plane has left or the room goes unbooked the value is 0. how many times might a woman who charges 400 hr be better off taking 300 at midnight rather than watch the tonight show and wake up with nothing. just a thought Originally Posted by petiteassman

Can a hotel room suck your dick? Please answer that question for me. Next time you stay at a hotel room or purchase airline tickets ask them if a blowjob comes with that and let me know how that goes for you. I'll tell you right now that a woman's company is never "0". It all depends on the provider's location. I know for a fact that I would NEVER go to San Antonio or Austin, Texas and expect a big payday. A lot of proviers there are currently struggling but ummm -- those same providers can tour and make even more money without lowering their rates/having to deal with hagglers. This business is a very individualized business but for some reason when one chick is doing something men start to think we're ALL doing it - nope that's not true.

Oh and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of ladies that will not take that midnight appointment for $300. A lot of us would prefer to be sleeping around that time and wouldn't work after 9pm. We're not all drugging ourselves up just so we can stay up and suck the next penis for a few extra dollars.

to suck the next penis for a few extra bucks the only debate is how many. if you can get 1000 good for you if you have to take 20 such is life. you make your decisions let others make theirs. if a young lady is on board with certain price levels or accomodations that is their business. whi;e a plane or hotel room cannot suck a dick book airfare for 400 instead of 900 we can afford to pay you to suck it for 1.5 hrs. get a room for a week at 100 night instead of 200 and again pick up the phone and you will be sucking it. we all have x dollars to go around to satisfy our desires and needs and how we spend them determines what we get to enjoy. believe me as you are young and attractive you can command a good price because people see i certain value to fucking you. put on 20 yrs or 50 lbs and see how many guys will be offering you 25 for a bng. if we guys were brad pitt we wouldnt be paying you and if you guys were millionaires you wouldn't be banging us.

Can a hotel room suck your dick? Please answer that question for me. Next time you stay at a hotel room or purchase airline tickets ask them if a blowjob comes with that and let me know how that goes for you. I'll tell you right now that a woman's company is never "0". It all depends on the provider's location. I know for a fact that I would NEVER go to San Antonio or Austin, Texas and expect a big payday. A lot of proviers there are currently struggling but ummm -- those same providers can tour and make even more money without lowering their rates/having to deal with hagglers. This business is a very individualized business but for some reason when one chick is doing something men start to think we're ALL doing it - nope that's not true.

Oh and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of ladies that will not take that midnight appointment for $300. A lot of us would prefer to be sleeping around that time and wouldn't work after 9pm. We're not all drugging ourselves up just so we can stay up and suck the next penis for a few extra dollars. Originally Posted by Naomi4u

you're in fact waiting to suck the next penis for a few extra bucks the only debate is how many. Originally Posted by petiteassman

No I'm not. I'm not "waiting" on anything. My business model is not sitting at an incall and waiting for penises to suck. Speak for yourself or others but not for me. Good day.

I've been to Buffalo, are you kidding? LOL Originally Posted by Still Looking

BA-ZING!!!

"Oh and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of ladies that will not take that midnight appointment for $300. A lot of us would prefer to be sleeping around that time and wouldn't work after 9pm. We're not all drugging ourselves up just so we can stay up and suck the next penis for a few extra dollars." perhaps you should speak for yourself and not for others. its funny but girls are very quick to point out this is not their life but a business but when their time and body is treated like any other commodity a business might trade things change quickly and those high end girls become VERY defensive. anyways you are an attractive woman who from all accounts gives a decent blowjob and is at least ok to bang so you should do well as long as you keep your age and weight in check so if you let everyone else make the decisions that best work for them everyone should be all smiles.

No I'm not. I'm not "waiting" on anything. My business model is not sitting at an incall and waiting for penises to suck. Speak for yourself or others but not for me. Good day. Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Petiteassman, You are very fucking disresepctful.
You do not know me/or what it's like to be with me so
please stop talking about what you do know know.
Reference: "Ok blowjob/Ok to bang"


Let me guess, I take it you're also one of those hobbyists that think
I HAVE to take your money because I'm a "hooker" and that's what good "hookers"
do. Suck and fuck anything that offers them a piece of paper. Right? Please.

I agree haggling is inappropiate with a provider but that this is America statement and we don't haggle is a little too much. Originally Posted by burkalini

I was semi joking, but I do think it is inappropriate and tactless to haggle with a provider, which you obviously agree with.

I realize there are certain areas of commerce where deals are negotiated and so forth, but I consider providing not just a service, but also a job and just as I would never want someone to ask me to do my job for less than my normal rate of pay, I would also never ask or expect someone else to work for less either.