Behold! Cliven Bundy and "the Negro"

Of course he can. IB is never constrained by the chains of logic, intelligence, or rational thought.

PS: for IB when he reads this, please note, just as with my other posts I am DIRECTLY addressing the post I have quoted. Directly and rationally. THAT is why my posts are reasonable and on topic, while yours are delusional ravings. See the difference? You probably don't, but since I am kind and take pity on folks like you and your minion I keep trying to educate you even though it is probably not possible. Originally Posted by Old-T

How can you possibly presume to claim you educate, Old-Twerp, when you illogically claim you are not a hypocrite?

You attack with insults and chastise for being off-topic, and yet, Old-Twerp, you opened by doing exactly both!

Now you claim you have a right to do so because you imagine yourself somehow "rational, reasonable and on topic", Old-Twerp, when in fact you are none of those! And to prove it, Old-Twerp, your dumb-ass ignorantly misconstrued and quoted Ekim the Inbred Chimp who was addressing IIFFY -- NOT IB! So WTF is "reasonable or rational" about your assertion that you are "on topic", Old-Twerp, when you obviously and stupidly didn't even know the subject being addressed in Ekim the Inbred Chimp's post was IIFFY?

IB, if all of Bundy's supporters decided to help pay the fees/fines that he owes ....would you be in favor of that.

Or would you possibly help out the cause by contributing to it?

IB, if all of Bundy's supporters decided to help pay the fees/fines that he owes ....would you be in favor of that.

Or would you possibly help out the cause by contributing to it? Originally Posted by JCM800

If all of Odumbo's minions like you finally came to their senses and realized what morons you have been; thus, prompting the other Odumbo minions to ingest arsenic, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout, would you join them?

You would definitely be contributing to a good cause if you did, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout.

Far right extremist ?
I think that is exactly what this country needs. This government is corrupt, fraudulent and ripe with over reach. If you believe what we have here today is freedom, then you are a fool. It is an illusion of freedom, a mere glimpse of it.
It is so easy to call names and slam opposition. If you wish to believe all is well, then fine. I and a few others have both eyes open and are not led like sheep by the government to drink their Kool-Aid.
If one becomes conditioned by the state to like the taste, texture and smell of bullshit then you can call it chocolate pudding if you like. But there exist no government which while pissing on intelligent people can have them believe it is only raining ! Originally Posted by rioseco

Welcome Rioseco!

If all of Odumbo's minions like you finally came to their senses and realized what morons you have been; thus, prompting the other Odumbo minions to ingest arsenic, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout, would you join them?

You would definitely be contributing to a good cause if you did, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

So you compare helping Bundy to consuming arsenic.

Why do you support him then?

There are people ( ranchers and farmers) In Nebraska fighting the pipeline. You can't blame all the opposition on environmentalists . Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Of course he can. IB is never constrained by the chains of logic, intelligence, or rational thought. Originally Posted by Old-T

How can you possibly presume to claim you educate, Old-Twerp, when you illogically claim you are not a hypocrite?

You attack with insults and chastise for being off-topic, and yet, Old-Twerp, you opened by doing exactly both!

Wrong again, illiterate one. If you cannot see the direct ON-topic connection between the two post, then I really can't help you--as much as I would like to.

And to prove it, Old-Twerp, your dumb-ass ignorantly misconstrued and quoted Ekim the Inbred Chimp who was addressing IIFFY -- NOT IB! So WTF is "reasonable or rational" about your assertion that you are "on topic", Old-Twerp, when you obviously and stupidly didn't even know the subject being addressed in Ekim the Inbred Chimp's post was IIFFY? Originally Posted by I B Hankering

What it proves is that it is becoming harder and harder to distinguish you from your minion. It so sounded like you, and there was no vomitus video, so yes: I mistook your brain washed Reichsfuehrer for the Fuehrer himself. An understandable error on my part, but I must admit, an error nonetheless.

By the way, you are on a really good roll. Keep it up and you might reach the 12,000 Belch mark on this very thread the way you are going. Less than 100 to go, you should be able to pump those out in a couple hours!

What it proves is that it is becoming harder and harder to distinguish you from your minion. It so sounded like you, and there was no vomitus video, so yes: I mistook your brain washed Reichsfuehrer for the Fuehrer himself. An understandable error on my part, but I must admit, an error nonetheless.

By the way, you are on a really good roll. Keep it up and you might reach the 12,000 Belch mark on this very thread the way you are going. Less than 100 to go, you should be able to pump those out in a couple hours! Originally Posted by Old-T

Old-Tyrant a DNC Slave Master supporter ...

Watch this video or are you scared? ... Old-Tyrant... LOL... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIh7...cMMGtqvmzGhjjA

My Dad (RIP) once told that if a person constantly feels the need to tell everyone how superior he (or she) is, it is a very good indication the opposite applies. Originally Posted by bigtex

BigTits, with all due respect to your "Dad" (may he RIP despite of you) I suspect he was referencing penis size when passing on advice to you and not your intellectual capacity, which is notable only by the obsession you have had of cutting and pasting from the Houston Chronicle OP-ED pages.

What HE neglected to share with you, apparently, is the notion that attempting to "elevate" yourself above others by ridiculing and dismissing them as you attempt merely lowers you in relation to them and thereby has a tendency to raise their status in relation to yours. A corollary to that principle is when one expends as much time as you ridiculing and dismissing others one as you neglects the task of becoming intellectually informed and one as you rarely, if ever, improves their "game," because "their game" is to drag others down rather than stepping up their status with positive steps. Like "movie critics" you met who've made movies.

I recognize those concepts may be confusing to you, but ..... so be it.

In the meantime, please don't drink and post.

What it proves is that it is becoming harder and harder to distinguish you from your minion. It so sounded like you, and there was no vomitus video, so yes: I mistook your brain washed Reichsfuehrer for the Fuehrer himself. An understandable error on my part, but I must admit, an error nonetheless.

By the way, you are on a really good roll. Keep it up and you might reach the 12,000 Belch mark on this very thread the way you are going. Less than 100 to go, you should be able to pump those out in a couple hours! Originally Posted by Old-T

Actually, Old-Twerp, what that proves is that you're now admitting you are "confused" despite your earlier claim that you were "reasonable, rational and on topic."

Your actions speak louder than words, Old-Twerp.

A reasonable person is not a confused person, Old-Twerp. Therefore, Old-Twerp, you are not reasonable.

A rational person is not a confused person, Old-Twerp. Therefore, Old-Twerp, you are not rational.

A person who is wholly "mistaken" about what topic he is on IS not ON TOPIC, Old-Twerp.

In addition to being a hypocrite, you have now further proven you are an ignorant liar.

So you compare helping Bundy to consuming arsenic.

Why do you support him then? Originally Posted by JCM800

You have never once provided a citation to back up your lame-ass assertion, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout, and for the record, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout, you and other mindless Odumbo minions were being compared to feebleminded varmints that should be culled for the benefit of society.

Maybe when the BLM gets some free time they can deal with your ilk the way they dealt with Bundy's cattle, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout.

Poor IB. Now you can't distinguish between post and poster.

Poor, confused IB.

Poor IB. Now you can't distinguish between post and poster.

Poor, confused IB. Originally Posted by Old-T

That would be your ignorant error, Old-Twerp, and it's too late to deflect because you already admitted to your ignorance at #141.

You have never once provided a citation to back up your lame-ass assertion, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout, and for the record, 1-800-JCM-DATO: the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM's soiled breechclout, you and other mindless Odumbo minions were being compared to feebleminded varmints that should be culled for the benefit of society. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Hey, you avoided the Bundy question with an arsenic reference.

Do I have to provide you a link now for something you already posted?

You're the principal liar here, you dumb-fuck Yankee retard exiled from your beloved homeland and now living in Texas. You cannot support your opening statement with a single, genuine citation, you mentally forlorn Yankee dweeb.

You are a genuine, chromosome deficient Yankee moron if you think you actually ever demonstrated anything other than your own full retardation, you benighted Yankee jackass. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Unfortunately for you, folks can read your bullshit and have no problem spotting a racist, Confederate sympathizer like you.

You saw in Bundy a kindred redneck spirit.

Unfortunately, Bundy can't keep his mouth shut and stay below the radar.

well ExNYer, these idiots will NEVER get it regardless how in depth the explanation ...

that's why they're IDIOTS Originally Posted by CJ7

Bundy's an ass and has NO grounds to stand on.

He is just anti-government and these douchebags will make up ANY stupid rationale to defend him - starting with IBLying, the principal spin doctor.

What you seem to be missing here, or denying, is the argument that the Federal Government does not have a right to claim that land. It is part of a state. Forcing a state, by the Federal Government, to do or not do something with that land is denying that state's sovereignty. Originally Posted by boardman

Actually, the federal government legitimately owns 80% of Nevada. Whether it should or not is a different story - one that would have to be voted on.

The US received most of the western US from Mexico in 1848 at the end of the Mexican American war.

That is completely different than the original 13 states which pre-dated the federal government and - for lack of a better phrase - "owned themselves" entirely.

It was also different than most of the eastern states outside of the original 13 that joined prior to the Civil War.

AFTER the Civil War, newly admitted states had to acknowledge federal sovereignty and had to negotiate over what lands would be state owned and privately owned.

So, states like Utah, NM, AZ, and Nevada were founded ON FEDERAL LANDS and they were admitted to the Union with strings attached. In the case of Utah, they also had to agree to outlaw polygamy.

So, no, there is no infringement of state sovereignty.