I started this thread to say that being fat is nothing more than a personal indicator of laziness and a cultural indicator of a disease. One of which is easy to fix, the other will only be fixed when the government has to step in and fix it for you which they will.
.....changes the fact that you are personally lazy and a disease in our society...
.... it's just facts...
Originally Posted by Wakeuр
Sorry Wakeup....Your "facts" are not entirely facts, but rather common perception of what the common public perceives to be "facts." There is a great deal of truth that (calories in > calories out) naturally increases fat cells in a similar way to what animals do to adjust for changes in climate.. ie. Hibernation.
However, you appear to be ignoring obesity as it relates to genetic, psychological, and socioeconomic factors.
The facts are actually worse.. But at least progress is being made in the understanding of the disease.
Studies have proven there is such thing as FAT GENE..ie., PCSK1(controls appetite), KLF14, BDNF or brain-derived neurotrophic factor, and lipin (an protein catalyst directly linked to the formation of triglycerides(fats)) Abundance and/or mutations of these genes have been proven to be directly linked to metabolic disorders including obesity.
Also there are certain food additives/preservatives that can effect fluid retention and metabolic rate in some people...ie.. MSG, Sodium Sulfite, Sodium Benzoate...etc..
Sleep deprivation, stress, and depression are also linked obesity...
I would get more into the socioeconomic factors, but don't want to stir up any shit that others may find offensive..
Hell, there's plenty more shit too.... lol...
As for those that need to eat more than others though, it does come down to the whole calorie game.. I think in this case the first step is to be educate yourself on what exactly you're eating. If your able to tolerate eating low calorie foods(vegetables, mushrooms, etc.), you could actually consume more food to fulfill your appetite so you don't feel starved but end up greatly decreasing your daily calories as well causing you to loose weight. If your like me, and refuse to give up meat (hamburgers, steak, chicken sandwiches), try to lower sugar and carb intake(drink water not soda and forget about potatoes, french fries, and pasta). But what works for me may not work for others. There are many apps for smart phones that you can use to log/look up food and daily activities as well as exercise regimens. Just being aware of what your doing could help shape your mind into accepting better eating/drinking habits. BTW.. SEX is a great exercise... if only it were offered in gyms, the world would be so much more skinny...
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v43...ll/ng.833.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15200237
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0714153802.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21801469
I'm not throwing in healthy types of foods, exercise regimens, any of that. Almost everyone can lose 5% of their body weight by doing nothing more than counting their calories and sitting on the couch being a lazy fuck. Once they see how easy that it, it instills an urge to do more.
Originally Posted by Wakeuр
TRUE!!! the calorie game is a big part of it as is education. I'm just saying its also not that simple for some folks. Also there some carry a little extra weight very well. However, there is nothing sexy about being outright obese. IMHO And if the government steps in, I think there primary objective should be through education which they are already starting to do.