OK I have had it with Racism in hobbying

The only reason you could possibly want me to retract a post is due to the fact that it proves you have nothing of substance to add to the topic. I could be wrong, but I don't think that my intelligence is at question here, which only leaves one of us that intellectual questions arise.

We have hijacked this post and for that I am sorry, that was not my intent. I have only commented on things that I felt passion for and I felt should be commented on. I am however smart enough to realize when an argument is done and you my friend have been silenced.

Any time in the future you wish to challenge me in a battle of wits, I welcome you to fire away with a thread. We can debate anything you like. Originally Posted by BigPurdy

Sorry, but if you have to proclaim that you won an internet argument, then you probably didn't.

Having a NB policy doesn't result in any injury to those who a provider denies services to. Not at all like a lynching, slavery or other anti-black atitudes; to say otherwise is ridicoulas and demeaning to those who were truly victims of hatred and violence in America. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

By your reasoning, a restaurant or hotel that refused to serve blacks "doesn't result in any injury" because there is another restaurant or hotel that will. Do you believe that?

By your reasoning, a restaurant or hotel that refused to serve blacks "doesn't result in any injury" because there is another restaurant or hotel that will. Do you believe that?

So let me get this right Shackleton, you're putting women on the same level as a restaurant or hotel???

Women are not the same as restaurants or hotels. They're PEOPLE who have the right to choose who they will or want see without having to explain the whys or why nots to you or anyone else. It's all about PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

I think the underlying problem is some on this site simply can accept the fact that there are some women who don't find them physically attractive and want see them. It's the classic wanting what we can't have syndrome.

It has nothing to do with how people perceive black men. It has everything to do with the fact that some women are not attracted to black men. Unfortunately, you could be a Harvard Law professor and these women would still not be attracted to you because of your physical appearance.

I don't know why some women aren't attracted to black men, but it's reality. I'm hispanic, but I've been around a lot of white people. I've heard a few of these whites mention that black people have a peculiar odor that doesn't smell good to them.

Accept reality for what it is and move on!!! There are far more women who see black men than don't.

So let me get this right Shackleton, you're putting women on the same level as a restaurant or hotel??? . . . . Originally Posted by Bannedito

No, you didn't get it right; not even close. If you want to respond to what I post, please stay on topic. The issue I addressed is whether or not a client being refused service because of his race suffers any sort of injury. I didn't post anything one way or another about whether an escort can or should be able to refuse service or should be free from criticism for refusing to serve or whatever because of a client's race. You went off on the second. Two different things.

It has everything to do with the fact that some women are not attracted to black men. Unfortunately, you could be a Harvard Law professor and these women would still not be attracted to you because of your physical appearance.

I don't know why some women aren't attracted to black men, but it's reality. Accept this reality for what it is and move on!!! There are far more women who see black men than don't. Originally Posted by Bannedito

I'm of the belief that women can choose to see and not see who they want and all of the above may be true but.....

What happens when an unattractive white, asian, or hispanic man shows up...



I'm gonna have to call Bullshit on that "attracted to" thing.

Any provider that can tell me she is "attracted to" every Tom, Dick (pun intended) and Harry that knocks on her door is...well...not exactly telling the truth...

Just my .02

I'm gonna have to call Bullshit on that "attracted to" thing.

Any provider that can tell me she is "attracted to" every Tom, Dick (pun intended) and Harry that knocks on her door is...well...not exactly telling the truth...

Just my .02 Originally Posted by DickEmDown

Honestly, I can say that 95.0% of my gents I am highly attracted to. I would rather see one amazing guy a week. Then ten incompetent F#@%s!
They come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities.

My intuition is rarely wrong!

I think the underlying problem is some on this site simply can accept the fact that there are some women who don't find them physically attractive and want see them. It's the classic wanting what we can't have syndrome . . .

I don't know why some women aren't attracted to black men, but it's reality. I'm hispanic, but I've been around a lot of white people. I've heard a few of these whites mention that black people have a peculiar odor that doesn't smell good to them. Originally Posted by Bannedito

Is this guy serious??? We could all go on and on with all the stupid remarks we've "heard" said about each other's race - there's some in every race who claim a particular race or two had a certain odor (yes, I've heard it said about Hispanics as well).

But most of us have enough common sense to understand that just maybe it was just that particular person with the odor - and not generalize an entire race.

I've heard other blacks say that all whites smell like wet dogs. I've heard some whites claim that "Mexicans" smell like the Rio Grande river (the restroom part).
And now I've just heard a Hispanic person repeat an equally stupid claim about all blacks.

Thank goodness most people are far more intelligent.

Is this guy serious??? Originally Posted by Reeltalk

No. He's pot-stirring on purpose. Take a look at his other posts in the thread.

On another note, I'm really glad this thread popped up. I'm really getting a good sense (or reminder) of how some guys think and operate. My lists of guys I'd love to see, and will never see, are getting some awesome updates. Thanks, guys!

What happens when an unattractive white, asian, or hispanic man shows up... Originally Posted by DickEmDown

Honestly, if it's that much of an issue, whatever the issue may be, I don't see them.

Meg

So TTH you speak of obtuse. And you are so acute.

We all make decisions and choices on a daily basis that could, if scutinized, be labeled as discrimination. I choose to purchase gasoline and lotto tickets from QT, so I guess that I discriminate against Valero. They should sue me, or better yet post some ridiculous rhetoric about my despicable activities on this site. I like providers with all of their extremities intact, so I guess that I discriminate against women without limbs. Examples of just how ridiculous and non-substantive your argument is. Originally Posted by BigPurdy

You make your decision solely based on race, that have nothing to do with any underlying biological reality (e.g. prevalence of sickle cell anemia), you're a racist. You apologize for those who make their decisions solely on race, you're a racist, or at a minimum an enabler or racists.

And interestingly, the more the racist crowd moves to show how "non-racist" they are, the more apparent it becomes that they're in denial. Those who are the victims of discrimination suffer no real injury. So if Harvard and the other top universities in the country won't admit African Americans, but some college somewhere does, it's OK. No harm. So if you establish a separate school system for blacks and call it equal, it's OK. After all, some school system will take them? Just fucking amazing. Over sixty years of progress just evaporates in front of our eyes. No wonder even the Republicans on the Supreme Court admit we still need affirmative action. With idiotic views like this, somebody will soon start talking about how great blacks had it during slavery.

Thank you ladies and gents, for the wonderful compliments. I would also like to remind everyone about the saying about assumptions. This thread has gone too far.

These are the facts:
1. This thread will not change the minds of ladies who don't see certain races.
2. You gents will call who you want, and the ladies will meet who they want.
3. To say that there aren't racist providers OR racist hobbyists would be to lie.
4. To speculate who they are based on their preferences would be wrong.

The only thing we can change about this topic is how we react to it. With everything else, we should all garner the wisdom to understand that we can't change it.

Peace everyone...

AGREED!

Is this guy serious??? We could all go on and on with all the stupid remarks we've "heard" said about each other's race - there's some in every race who claim a particular race or two had a certain odor (yes, I've heard it said about Hispanics as well).

But most of us have enough common sense to understand that just maybe it was just that particular person with the odor - and not generalize an entire race.

I've heard other blacks say that all whites smell like wet dogs. I've heard some whites claim that "Mexicans" smell like the Rio Grande river (the restroom part).
And now I've just heard a Hispanic person repeat an equally stupid claim about all blacks.

Thank goodness most people are far more intelligent. Originally Posted by Reeltalk

Very well said.

On another note, I'm really glad this thread popped up. I'm really getting a good sense (or reminder) of how some guys think and operate. My lists of guys I'd love to see, and will never see, are getting some awesome updates. Thanks, guys! Originally Posted by tracibrooks

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