Evolution? Intelligent Design? God did it all in 7 days?

So where are the fossils of the species that lived before the giraffe, the "pre-giraffes?" You know the one's with short necks, then medium sized necks and then really long necks? Originally Posted by joe bloe

And I would love to see the fossils of the slow cheetah lol

From another thread:




An evolved species?

Looks like you DO believe in evolution... Originally Posted by ExNYer

To go from non-living to living isn't a slow steady incremental change; it's a quantum leap. It couldn't have happened by itself. You believe it happened more or less by accident, even though we can't duplicate it in a lab.

Thinking that vast amounts of time are sufficient to make evolution plausible, is like believing Mount Rushmore could have happened naturally, given enough time.

The Bible says God has always existed. He wasn't created. As long as we're asking the question, who created the stuff that existed before the big bang?
Originally Posted by joe bloe

This is in the Bible too.
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Death for Hitting Dad?
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

How about beating your slave?
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB

Atheistic evolutionists say that the origin of everything was the big bang, but that still doesn't answer the basic question of where did everything come from? Originally Posted by joe bloe

So, in fact, they are just like Bible thumpers in how it actually all began. Neither know, yet you believe without any doubt that God created everything? Jesus Fucking christ....

You should probably quit while you're behind. Impossible to spin in opposite directions? Look up "conservation of angular momentum", you can find it in that Physics 101 text book you didn't read very well. Originally Posted by Old-T

OLD T you are seriously wrong and I challenge you to quote your sources
[B]This is a known law of science, which those who believe in Evolution cannot do away with. It is known as the Conservation of angular momentum Here is the definition:The law of conservation of angular momentum states that when no external torque acts on an object or a closed system of objects, no change of angular momentum can occur. Hence, the angular momentum before an event involving only internal torques or no torques is equal to the angular momentum after the event. This conservation law mathematically follows from isotropy, or continuous directional symmetry of space (no direction in space is any different from any other direction).

This matter which is said to have created the planets would all need to spin in the same direction as the object it came from. So therefore, all of the planets should be spinning in the same direction.

However two of them are not. Venus and Uranus spin backwards

Old T you might want to go re-read that law-

This is in the Bible too.
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Death for Hitting Dad?
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

How about beating your slave?
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB Originally Posted by WTF

WTF what does the laws have to do with intelligent design? If that was the aw of the land than so be it- do you know there are some crazy laws that exist in our country right now that are not enforced here are a few laws that actually exist:

In Texas, it's against the law for anyone to have a pair of pliers in his or her possession.

In Philadelphia, you can't put pretzels in bags based on an Act of 1760.

Alaska law says that you can't look at a moose from an airplane.

In Corpus Christie, Texas, it is illegal to raise alligators in your home.

In Miami, it is forbidden to imitate an animal.

It is against the law to mispronounce the name of the State of Arkansas in that State.

In Illinois, the law is that a car must be driven with the steering wheel.

California law prohibits a woman from driving a car while dressed in a housecoat.

In Memphis, Tennessee, a woman is not to drive a car unless a man warns approaching motorists or pedestrians by walking in front of the car that is being driven.

In Tennessee, it is against the law to drive a car while sleeping.

In New York, it is against the law for a blind person to drive an automobile.

In West Virginia, only babies can ride in a baby carriage.

In Georgia, it is against the law to slap a man on the back or front.

A barber is not to advertise prices in the State of Georgia.

In Louisiana, a bill was introduced years ago in the State House of Representatives that fixed a ceiling on haircuts for bald men of 25 cents.

In Oklahoma, no baseball team can hit the ball over the fence or out of a ballpark.

This is in the Bible too.
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Death for Hitting Dad?
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

How about beating your slave?
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB Originally Posted by WTF

You really are a one trick pony; your only trick is deflection.

You asked who created God. The Bible says he wasn't created. The Bible provides the answer to your question. I don't believe the Bible is infallible, but it does answer your question.

To go from non-living to living isn't a slow steady incremental change; it's a quantum leap. It couldn't have happened by itself. And you know this HOW?

You believe it happened more or less by accident, even though we can't duplicate it in a lab. We can't duplicate a black hole in a lab either. Does that mean they don't exist or are not possible?

Thinking that vast amounts of time are sufficient to make evolution plausible, is like believing Mount Rushmore could have happened naturally, given enough time. Mount Rushmore did occur naturally over time. The sculpture is a different story. Originally Posted by joe bloe

The existence of God is a question for philosophy - along with the meaning of life.

The mechanisms of life are questions for science. Not religious dogma.

WTF what does the laws have to do with intelligent design? If that was the aw of the land than so be it- do you know there are some crazy laws that exist in our country right now that are not enforced here are a few laws that actually exist:

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

joe blow stated that:


Originally Posted by joe bloe
The Bible says God has always existed.


I was just pointing out that the Bible states a bunch of nonsense. So many Biblical Contradictions it is not funny!...Well I take that back, it kinda is!

The existence of God is a question for philosophy - along with the meaning of life.

The mechanisms of life are questions for science. Not religious dogma. Originally Posted by ExNYer

Correct.

joe blow stated that:


Originally Posted by joe bloe
The Bible says God has always existed.


I was just pointing out that the Bible states a bunch of nonsense. So many Biblical Contradictions it is not funny!...Well I take that back, it kinda is! Originally Posted by WTF

How is certain law nonsense- than you must agree our laws are nonsense as well? People in the middle east may think it's nonsense that 2 men can get married- most cultures don't have relaxed homosexuality laws or divorce laws like we do in America- so to say one law is nonsense and another law isn't is quite subjective.

You really are a one trick pony; your only trick is deflection.

You asked who created God. The Bible says he wasn't created. The Bible provides the answer to your question. I don't believe the Bible is infallible, but it does answer your question. Originally Posted by joe bloe

How does the Bible know if he was or wasn't created?

Another question...you get sick. Who do you go for to get well? God or a Doctor?

Your Spirit gets sick, who do you go to?

People's actions show they know the difference between science and philosophy when their ass is on the line. None of you Bible thumpers go to a Priest when you have the flu. Your actions speak way louder to me than your typed bravado in all things Godly!

The existence of God is a question for philosophy - along with the meaning of life.

The mechanisms of life are questions for science. Not religious dogma. Originally Posted by ExNYer

Really? Who says so? That's one of those big lies that gets told so often, people think it must be true.

God, defined in the broadest terms as a universal creative force is perfectly consistant with science. Occam's razor says that the simplest answer, consistant with all the facts, is the answer most likely to be true.

God as creator is the simplest answer and the answer most likely to be true.

Science has no answer to the question of where did everything come from. Since science has no answer to the question, it proclaims the question to be unscientific.

How is certain law nonsense- than you must agree our laws are nonsense as well? People in the middle east may think it's nonsense that 2 men can get married- most cultures don't have relaxed homosexuality laws or divorce laws like we do in America- so to say one law is nonsense and another law isn't is quite subjective. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

I said the Bible spots a bunch of nonsense. You are correct, laws are subjective. So no biblical laws should be followed? What is you logic here? That you should not follow the Bible? If so, that is exactly WTF I was telling joe!



Here is more nonsense and contradictions.


God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

I said the Bible spots a bunch of nonsense. You are correct, laws are subjective. So no biblical laws should be followed? What is you logic here? That you should not follow the Bible? If so, that is exactly WTF I was telling joe!



Here is more nonsense and contradictions.


God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12 Originally Posted by WTF

You ever heard of free will- both statements are not contradictions- God knows what I will do tomorrow because he knows all- BUT there are no strings attached to me so I have the free will to do as I please- sorry but no contradiction. If God puts men through trials and tribulations and has the ability to see the future than he can accomplish both without being a contradiction???

You ever heard of free will- both statements are not contradictions- God knows what I will do tomorrow because he knows all- BUT there are no strings attached to me so I have the free will to do as I please- sorry but no contradiction. If God puts men through trials and tribulations and has the ability to see the future than he can accomplish both without being a contradiction??? Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19