Malaysian airlines: the rise of Al Queada?

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  • 03-16-2014, 01:04 PM



737 ... 200ER 777 ....one can land on a levee, one cant ... guess away
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  • 03-16-2014, 01:07 PM
And there it is again .... "through ASCARS"!!!!!!

That's no typo!!!!

Holiday Inn Express for sure. Originally Posted by LexusLover


must have been a typo when you claimed a 777 200ER weighs 150,000 lbs eh sport ?

you can barely spell Hoilday Inn
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  • 03-16-2014, 01:25 PM
The transponder is between the pilots and can be turned off with a twist of the wrist, commercial airliners have two, one backs up the other in case of mechanical failure .... for all you idiots.


but LL knew that because he's an ace pilot

and an idiot
and an asshole
and a moron
and
and
Who was it that said that airliners couldn't be hijacked anymore?

The door to the cockpit couldn't be broken into?

The passengers would attack the hijackers?

All anyone could do is plant a bomb.......??????

Who was that poster? Originally Posted by TheDaliLama
Keep reading. You got half of it.

I also said you couldn't do anything about the pilots if they went nuts. You could only try to screen them.

Increasingly, it looks like it was the pilots - on a suicide mission.
Once you discard your obsession with men's asses ...

.. you can enlighten all those masses about "The ASCARS system" ...

Do you read blogs on the side then quote "alphabet soup" to look intelligent?

Your intellectual prowess must have matched those "connecting the dots' pre-911 ... sad. "Bloviating" bullshit, like you poop in your diapers. Talking the shit isn't walking the shit .... but you are the prototype internet bullshitter.

You resort to name calling when your "math" and "logic" are full of holes ..

... in this case ... gaping holes.... which you apparently know a lot about.

I'm sure glad you weren't a "sonar" operator ... if it ain't Nintendo you are lost! Originally Posted by LexusLover
Will have to give you one, I went back but was unable to find the source so either it was wrong or I copied it wrong. The correct is ACARS Aircraft communication reporting system. Either way if it is turned off no data comes from the engines. It will "ping" once a hr.
I was hoping that you would be bright enough to do a little research and man enough to admit you were wrong. Instead, you fell for the trap.

Please read the link but I will hit one of the main points for you:

- Find someplace to land. The 777 is a big plane — once Boeing retires the 747, it will be the biggest in its stable — but in an emergency it can be put down on a relatively short runway. “If I have a fire in flight, I’m prepared to put it down on anything above 5,000 feet,” says Solan.(An American Airlines 777-200 pilot) “You could put it on a highway.” A runway wouldn’t even necessarily have to be paved; hard-packed dirt would likely be good enough. Throw some camouflage netting over the plane once you’re on the ground, and you’re good.
BTW, drive by the 6666 ranch on the way to Lubbock someday, and tell me you couldn't put her down somewhere near that place, you New York asshole. Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer
Keep trying asshole.

Camouflage netting? Really? You just landed a 777 on a big highway. Do you think no one will notice it? Even with camouflage netting on it?
A Boeing 737-700 weighs about 150,000 pounds and has 6 tires, so that is 37500 pounds per tire.
One of them landed in a dirt levee near New Orleans. (It later took off from the same levee)
A Boeing 777-200 weighs about 700,000 pounds but has 16 tires, which is only 43750 pounds per tire.
According to Boeing's published specs for rigid pavements, you can land a 777 on 11 inches (thickness) of rigid pavement under typical conditions.

http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/com...s/777rsec7.pdf

Typical highways have 10 inches (thickness) of material on top and another 10-15 inches (thickness) of sub base.
They are usually 12 foot lane widths, so with nothing but a center stripe, you have 48 feet across on a 4 lane highway. A 777 has a 36 foot wide wheel spacing for the outer wheels, measured from the outside to outside facing the airplane straight ahead.
You could land it in many different places, though you wouldn't want to do it and it would be hard to conceal, but not impossible.

P.S. Read and learn, asshole. Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer
Keep trying asshole.

All you have done is identified the type of highway you can land on.

You also have to make sure there are no overpasses - OUCH - for about a mile plus.

And there are no overhead signs or big light poles in the median for about a mile plus stretch.

And, of course, you have to find one in a deserted area where NO ONE will spot the 777 landing or bring deboarded or being refueled and taking off again. While the whole world is looking for the missing plane.
Actually I just went to Bing and looked up "maps". I found several very straight coast roads running down Indonesia and Malaysia with no houses on them. I also found a few two mile long straight aways with no connecting roads. Runways? You see, I never said it was an island, deserted or otherwise. There are highways in Kansas that you could put a 747 down on with no one around to watch. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Name them. Post a link.

Where there no cars or trucks on those roads - for HOURS at a time?

Where there overpasses? Signs? Light poles? Were there hillsides or forests on the side of the highway to clip the wings?

How THICK were those roads? Does Bing show that? Asphalt or concrete?

We're waiting...
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  • 03-16-2014, 01:52 PM

Obviously everything is subject to change if, and when, we get more concrete information. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
More info....Yea, why don't we do that.


I will predict that flight 370 ended up in the drink in the Southern Indian Ocean... "when the tanks went dry" .. Originally Posted by LexusLover
Actually, that is my prediction, too.

Muslims in the cockpit.

Lack of screening by Malayasian authorities.

If that turns out to be true, that airline is out of business. Anyone flying to or from Malaysia is going to choose a foreign carrier - Japanese, Chinese, US, etc.
Actually, that is my prediction, too. Originally Posted by ExNYer
And mine as well.

From the Dallas discussion forum:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1008935

See post #19:

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...8&postcount=19
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  • 03-16-2014, 01:58 PM
Let us see....with all the evidence before the Zimmerman trial started... LL thought folks know-it-alls for venturing a guess as to the fate of Zimmerman.

Now he is venturing the fate of an entire 777 on about as much evidence as the say the first ring of the 911 Zimmerman call...

Hypocrite much?



Commercial airliners (and some converted to cargo or tech equipment carriers) frequently make "short" takeoffs in zones of conflict in which an easy, lumbering lift-off "BY THE BOOK" puts them at risk of small arms fire, if not shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles. Using the "standard' length of the runway is not acceptable and puts everyone at risk. So posting from an "owner's manual" resource or published manufacturer stats is not relevant.

At or near sea level provides an opportunity for shorter take off distances.

But, given the current "state of the rumors" ..

I will predict that flight 370 ended up in the drink in the Southern Indian Ocean... "when the tanks went dry" ..

......whether hijacked or otherwise. A scenario is that a take-over of some sort was in progress and the "defense" was taking the aircraft above its ceiling with oxygen deprivation as the disabling mechanism with a return descent to normalize the conditions with auto pilot engaged to maintain altitude away from populated areas as a last resort to protect the loss of other lives from an impact in a populated area. that would account for the abrupt reversal in course, high altitude, return to lower altitude, and constant flight for the duration of the existing fuel load in a generally uninhabited and undeveloped part of the world.

I do not believe flight 370 had sufficient fuel to run the gauntlet along the "Northern Route"! Originally Posted by LexusLover
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must have been a typo when you claimed a 777 200ER weighs 150,000 lbs eh sport ?

you can barely spell Hoilday Inn Originally Posted by CJ7
Where did I clam that .... "sport"? Are you drinking again .. or is the just damage?

You respond like a rabid dog, snarling and snapping at anything or anyone. You have anger problems.

I'm not the one trashing people ... you are! I respond to the trash talk. Yours, too!

As for spelling "Holiday" correctly, I did. Or do you spell it differently?
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Let us see....with all the evidence before the Zimmerman trial started... Originally Posted by WTF
Still choked up about your failures? Burns doesn't it?

But you keep opening the wounds of your poor ability to analyze legal cases.

here .. poor some more salt in there.... feel the pain.