Liberaldevil nails it...and aptly illustrates one of the reasons why I could never be a repuke: Opposition to the idea that all human beings are entitled to basic health services. Basic humanity...of which the loonies here are bereft.Essence said it but I agree--I'm bloody glad not all Americans are void of compassion for their fellow human beings. I never say a word about the thought process that goes on in this room but I am now of the mind 90% of the political banter is simply for the purpose of having a wee go at the political lefties--such as myself. Personally, I could care less. My brain is very good at filtering out the festering piles of rubbish I read on this board most days. And, most days it is a right good laugh. But, this healthcare issue isn't anything to laugh at mates. I deal with patients every bloody day who aren't the stereotypical skint dregs most on here would like to make them out to be. There are loads of people who aren't "Meth" addicted tweaking sods who irresponsibly continue having children to simply nosh off the benefits. I deal with every type of patient imaginable from the formerly very wealthy to the longtime skint. And, I can tell you this mate--if this healthcare initiative is turned down this country will be the laughing stock of the entire civilized world! If my views make me a socialist so be it. I'd rather have a wee bit of humanity about me whilst waving my Red Flag than have a "Piss Off" attitude towards others who maybe down on their luck due to a myriad of circumstances that are uncontrollable to them. I can only speak for myself as far as my profession goes but I didn't take an oath to only help the well off!!! I dare say I'm scared to ask but, what do most of you who are against universal healthcare think about "Doctors without borders"? Good? As long as you aren't funding it right? Sad, really.
I'm not going to waste time arguing the conceptual issue of whether we should have universal healthcare, nobody is going to change their mind. The entire argument has been poisoned by the bots with lies, fabrications, and gross exaggerations.
What I would like to do is have someone riddle me this: why the opposition to the mandate? The crazies, of course, oppose it all. But, this seems to be the thing that most middle-of-the-roaders oppose. Do you not understand that the $115 billion in health care costs that was incurred by the uninsured gets passed back to us...via increases in our premiums? We end up paying for it. Why not engage in the effort to make them pay for it?
And, by the way.....you're all a bunch of selfish pathetic bastards for opposing something that is designed to do such a good thing: ensure basic, adequate healthcare for all in the United States. Something that virtually every other Western democracy already provides. Along with a lot of the "commie" governments that you so love to bash. Spend 10 minutes thinking about the concept. It's a good thing. If you boneheads would be willing to accept that, and offer viable alternatives to the plan/legislation as currently proposed, something truly good could come out of it. Instead, you use it as a political tool to bash Obama, attack the illegals, tell lies about death panels, squawk and quack about socialism, and generally make shit up that is designed to do one thing: damage Obama politically. Originally Posted by timpage
So many of you bang on about ancient historical issues like the formation of your GREAT country--right? (No sarcasm meant. I agree.) Indeed! Why not actually lead the world by example? Wow, what a fucking novel idea! For once lead with compassion rather than military strength. And, please no rubbish about what a bunch of limey pacifists we are. Or, how you rescued us from Nazi rule. That's a right bunch of poppycock.
As I stated before, if taxation is the issue--the middle class and wealthy will barely even feel a wee pinch when it comes to the funding of this program. Why, is it such a bloody bad thing for the government to require all of its citizens to be covered? I for one will be rather grateful! I'll stop dealing with folks whilst on rounds who have no coverage but are forced to use the ER as a way to get a sore throat, FLU, or ingrown toe nail sorted because they have no other way of sorting it but to use a facility that's sole purpose is triage not sniffles! In case you didn't know that's what clinics and Physician visits are for. Universal healthcare in this country would bloody eliminate that issue once and for all.
I've long told my mates back in the UK that if the political banter would kindly stop for a wee minute in this country the healthcare could be absolutely brilliant! Sadly, in my opinion the NHS is still a better service even with all its wee issues. But, that doesn't need to be the case in a country with as much wealth as America. Healthcare is "NOT" a political issue its a bloody human issue. One in which caring about ones fellow man should be at the heart of--FULL STOP.
