My two cents to the discussion about evolution:
There is no "dead matter" there is only "matter". And some food for though to all the creationist that think it is impossible to get life out of "dead matter":
You are made out of the same materials as a rock. The same atomic elements conform biological compounds than non-biological ones. Only their "mix" is different And more, at the subatomic level we all are mainly "empty space".
The deity -or god-is something to try to make sense of reality or find some purpose for our own existance. If there is such thing it is beyond the scope of science. What is whithin the scope of science is to find out if such deity intervenes in our life. So far it seem like -if it exist- it does not.
Mother Nature follows a fixed set of rules and everything and everybody must follow them. Evolution follows such rules. It has been extensively researched and corroborated for many, many people that have dedicated their lives to understand those concepts.
Creationist have only their little book written thousands of years ago by ignorant people. Evolution studies compile thousands and thousands of books by extremely educated people that have facts and experimentation to base their conclusions.
God is not watching you. He -or it- does not care. Take responsibility for your own actions and don't expect a reward or punishment at the end. At the end you will also follow the laws of nature and will be recycled into something else.
Originally Posted by hardracer
Finally someone besides Look At Dumbass
Your post is an example of an Agnostic frame of reference.
Has anyone even bothered to read my first post.
Yes Micro evolution has been proven, it can be
seen within a given species within even a very
short period of time, a built in mechanism for
adaptability. Macro evolution has not been proven,
just assumed. Assumed that somehow Micro evolution
proves that Macro evolution occurred, not proof
just assumption requiring faith to be believed.
The Naturalistic view: Since God dose not exist
then Macro evolution is true even though we
cannot prove it. (Just a form of intellectual
bullshit.)
Their answer is always along the lines of we just
haven't found it yet but it's out there and we will
and that's all you need to know. And every new
fossil find is the missing link we've been looking
for until, oh wait no it's not, sorry our bad and
cetra cetra ad nauseum.
Not willing to say ours is a possibility we believe
to be true.
But ours is the only one to be considered.
Intellectual despotism, totalitarian in nature,
dictatorial in execution.
Me afraid of something dancewear, I've
never really been afraid of anything that
I can think of.
I just have a really good built in bullshit detector.
Intellectual bullshit is the worst kind of all.
Faith is required for all the different beliefs about
the origins and development of the universe and
all that is contained there in.
That puts them all on a level playing field.
Is faith required to be an Agnostic?
A faith in the ideal that there is something that
is true, without the willingness to commit to
any certain one, I suppose.