Paris Accord Died, American Pride

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China is, from what I've read, cutting back on coal and shutting down coal power plants which is the cause of much of their air pollution problems. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
"Cutting back" means that the Chinese are only going to build something like 80 or 90 out of the 100 coal plants they had planned to build in the next few years.


China Pledged to Curb Coal Plants. Greenpeace Says It’s Still Adding Them.

“China is building one coal-fired power plant every 7 to 10 days each big enough to serve all the households in Dallas or San Diego, while Japan plans to build 43 coal-fired power projects to replace its shuttered nuclear units.”


(The NYT)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-and-coal-pla/

"Nobody is allowing China to do anything, and nobody is prohibiting China from doing anything," Wirth said. "And the same is true for the United States."

The agreement never uses the word coal, much less spells out how many coal-fired plants any country can build.

As for China’s blueprint for what it plans to do, it does give itself until 2030 for its greenhouse gas emissions to peak. In contrast, the U.S. blueprint says "the United States intends to achieve an economy-wide target of reducing its greenhouse gas emissions by 26-28 percent below its 2005 level in 2025."

Critics of the arrangement point to China’s rising emissions as evidence of a fundamental unfairness. As Trump put it, the Chinese "can do whatever they want for 13 years."

Again, Trump’s language gives more legal weight to the agreement than it actually has, but he also overlooks other parts of China’s plan that aim to "control total coal consumption," and to increase the use of renewable energy supplies.

China said it would reduce the carbon intensity of its economy by 60 to 65 percent below 2005 levels, and increase the share of non-fossil energy to around 20 percent. And to get there, it would start changing its policies today.

As a practical matter, China’s carbon dioxide emissions have held steady for the past three years. China just halted the construction of 103 new coal-fired power plants, and its energy agency at the start of the year announced plans to pour more than $360 billion into renewable energy by the end of the decade.
Anybody remember during the 2000's papers and the net would chart how big the carbon footprint was for each country and how many tons of carbon per person they used? They used it mainly to shame the US and some of the more industrialized nations.

What ever happened to that? It's been like at least 5 years since I've seen a carbon footprint chart. We're they discredited? Don't even remember who put them out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM

Nobel Laureate in Physics speech on the Pseudoscience of Global Warming.....gotta luv it when an actual scientist who's got no $kin in the game (ie: Elon Musk, Al Gore, etc) explains earth / climate changes throughout the world thru time....

Politicians just need to stay out of arenas they know nothing about.
LexusLover's Avatar
....explains earth / climate changes throughout the world thru time....

Politicians just need to stay out of arenas they know nothing about. Originally Posted by Chateau Becot
... the basic issue is the "motivation" for "explaining" anything!

In this discussion the only "reason" to explain it is to assign the blame on "mankind" for the purpose of justifying more regulation of behavior by the government and the accompanying redistribution of the finite wealth in this country.
I B Hankering's Avatar
Anybody remember during the 2000's papers and the net would chart how big the carbon footprint was for each country and how many tons of carbon per person they used? They used it mainly to shame the US and some of the more industrialized nations.

What ever happened to that? It's been like at least 5 years since I've seen a carbon footprint chart. We're they discredited? Don't even remember who put them out. Originally Posted by gnadfly
When "green weenies" speak of carbon footprint it's too easy to point out the hypocrites.





Al Gore's Tennessee home uses about 12xs the electricity as an average American home.





Odumbo spent Earth Day on a luxury yacht.



Speaking of "green weenies" on yachts, here's DiCaprio with a helicopter and a yacht:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM

Nobel Laureate in Physics speech on the Pseudoscience of Global Warming.....gotta luv it when an actual scientist who's got no $kin in the game (ie: Elon Musk, Al Gore, etc) explains earth / climate changes throughout the world thru time....

Politicians just need to stay out of arenas they know nothing about. Originally Posted by Chateau Becot
" stay out of arenas they no nothing about." Like handling classified information ( on a non-government server ) ?
LexusLover's Avatar
" stay out of arenas they no nothing about." Like handling classified information ( on a non-government server ) ? Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
.. you mean after you give instructions to delete the "classification" heading on the email .... ?
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM

Nobel Laureate in Physics speech on the Pseudoscience of Global Warming.....gotta luv it when an actual scientist who's got no $kin in the game (ie: Elon Musk, Al Gore, etc) explains earth / climate changes throughout the world thru time....

Politicians just need to stay out of arenas they know nothing about. Originally Posted by Chateau Becot
already posted that youtube video in post #147.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Is it dead yet?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
Is it dead yet?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
is that your dick on the floor?
- aren't you from bowl of worthless investment and been sucking tx dick for long time with programming tech ... gun don't rob ... trying to steal the money for the bowl of worthlessness with same name ... French BLUE Parish New Orlean, LA "
and TX British RED - District ... Isn't Dallas AT&T BLUE
Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
Rainbows, unicorns and worthless pieces of paper. That's Obama's legacy.
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
Fleeing the Paris Accord Makes Scientific Sense
http://www.realclearscience.com/blog...fic_sense.html

The Amazing Arrogance of the Paris Climate Agreement
https://fee.org/articles/the-amazing...ate-agreement/
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
angela merkes losing it.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1151439.html

the G20 climate change clique is falling apart. out of that its G3.