New CBO numbers: Obamacare will cost the US 2.5 million jobs

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  • Doove
  • 02-11-2014, 05:18 PM
Well dimdoove, it's probably because you would have looked incredibly stupid. We don't have 10 years of evidence yet on the ACA's damage. We do have a report issued by the CBO projecting and quantifying some of the future damage (2.3 million full-time job equivalents). Originally Posted by lustylad
"Equivalents". Your term, not mine.

That's what this thread is all about, remember? Stay tuned, dumbfuck. There will be plenty more damage reports to come.
And i'm sure you'll spin every last one of them to a point where sane people don't recognize them.

I did see this post in another thread though, which fits you to a T ....

“………..if someone is still engaging in direct and personal grade school derision's as an older person, they're likely dealing with esteem issues that eventually manifests itself as real anger masked as crass "humor" and/or "honest" feedback. Sometimes it could be due to a lack of authority and power in their personal lives. Going to work everyday having to take shit off 2, 3, and 4 levels of bosses, never having the feeling of any authority except when you go home and log on to the interwebs where a small contingent of people egg them on and in turn those same people feel validated when their support reciprocated.” Originally Posted by LexusLover
You gonna just sit there and take that smack-down, lustylad?
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"Equivalents". Your term, not mine. Originally Posted by Doove
You seem to get it. The first three words you highlighted (dimdoove, stupid, dumbfuck) are equivalent.
You seem to get it. The first three words you highlighted (dimdoove, stupid, dumbfuck) are equivalent. Originally Posted by lustylad

Clean out the PM's...
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  • WTF
  • 02-11-2014, 10:59 PM
Well, let's see... if a whole bunch of people decide to quit working or work less, here are some of the things that will happen: Employment will drop, GNP growth will slow, there will be less demand in the economy, people will have less spendable income, tax revenues will decline, federal spending for ACA subsidies will go up, the budget deficit will soar...

Should I continue or do you get the picture, dipshit?

. Originally Posted by lustylad
I get your lying spinning picture...Now some facts about just wtf the CBO said.
The CBO projects that the act will reduce the supply of labor, not the availability of jobs. There's a big difference. In fact, it suggests that aggregate demand for labor (that is, the number of jobs) will increase, not decrease; but that many workers or would-be workers will be prompted by the ACA to leave the labor force, many of them voluntarily.
As economist Dean Baker points out, this is, in fact, a beneficial effect of the law, and a sign that it will achieve an important goal. It helps "older workers with serious health conditions who are working now because this is the only way to get health insurance. And (one for the family-values crowd) many young mothers who return to work earlier than they would like because they need health insurance. This is a huge plus."...

....As for labor demand, the CBO estimates that on balance, the ACA will increase aggregate demand for goods and services, in part by relieving lower-income people of the burden of health insurance or healthcare expenses, so they can increase their spending on other things. In turn, that will "boost demand for labor," especially in the near term, while the economy remains slack.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...#ixzz2t5JUbXWA



http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...#ixzz2t5Im2DDq
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  • WTF
  • 02-11-2014, 11:00 PM
You seem to get it. The first three words you highlighted (dimdoove, stupid, dumbfuck) are equivalent. Originally Posted by lustylad
Clean out the PM's... Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
More like PMS for that lil bitch. What straight guy calls himself lustyladyboy?
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  • WTF
  • 02-11-2014, 11:13 PM
It is "a fact" ... that the way insurance was set up it was "detrimental to folks changing jobs"!

Really? No shit?

How many jobs did you "change" while you were covered by an employer's insurance?

Or are you talking about "your company" .... when they leave you they don't get shit! Right?

How about this ..... quit "changing jobs" so friggin much ...

... or does that cause your little head to spin? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Possible Effects on Labor Supply
Through Productivity
In addition to the effects discussed above, the ACA could
shape the labor market or the operations of the health
sector in ways that affect labor productivity. For example,
to the extent that increases in insurance coverage lead to
improved health among workers, labor productivity
could be enhanced. In addition, the ACA could influence
labor productivity indirectly by making it easier for some
employees to obtain health insurance outside the workplace
and thereby prompting those workers to take jobs
that better match their skills, regardless of whether those
jobs offered employment-based insurance.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.document...bor-report.pdf
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  • Doove
  • 02-12-2014, 05:06 AM
We do have a report issued by the CBO projecting and quantifying some of the future damage (2.3 million full-time job equivalents). Originally Posted by lustylad
Obamacare creates the equivalent of 2.3 million jobs.

Suck on that one.
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the ACA could shape the labor market or the operations of the health



sector in ways that affect labor productivity. .....
Originally Posted by WTF


... "coulda, woulda, shoulda" ....
BTW: "We COULD HAVE found WMD's in Iraq!!! ... So the war was justified. Right?
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  • CJ7
  • 02-12-2014, 12:03 PM
... "coulda, woulda, shoulda" ....
[/LEFT]
BTW: "We COULD HAVE found WMD's in Iraq!!! ... So the war was justified. Right? Originally Posted by LexusLover
W said it himself, the war was about regime change, not WMD's ... so basically your point is meaningless ..
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W said it himself, the war was about regime change, not WMD's ... so basically your point is meaningless .. Originally Posted by CJ7
He said that when? When as in what year? I've heard his whining for years. BT's also.

If the war was about regime change. We won. The regime was changed.

ACA will not win. It's a Lose-Lose.

But I respect you for speaking up for WTF. He certainly needs it when buried in books in the library.
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  • WTF
  • 02-12-2014, 01:11 PM

But I respect you for speaking up for WTF. He certainly needs it when buried in books in the library. Originally Posted by LexusLover
I'm not the one getting bitch slapped with what the CBO actually said. You are.



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  • WTF
  • 02-12-2014, 01:14 PM
... "coulda, woulda, shoulda" ....
[/LEFT]
BTW: "We COULD HAVE found WMD's in Iraq!!! ... So the war was justified. Right? Originally Posted by LexusLover
We could have but we didn't....had we , it possible could have been a good thing if and I say if they were planning an attack on our soil. They weren't.

The jury is still out on the ACA....just like you lectured me on the Martin jury.

So all you are doing is venturing a guess on the ACA, just like I did on Martin.

We will see if you are correct in the next ten years.
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  • Doove
  • 02-12-2014, 01:45 PM
The jury is still out on the ACA....just like you lectured me on the Martin jury.

So all you are doing is venturing a guess on the ACA, just like I did on Martin. Originally Posted by WTF
I don't think they're guessing. I think they're just hoping

We will see if you are correct in the next ten years.
This whole argument is the "going Galt" argument all over again.
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We will see if you are correct in the next ten years. Originally Posted by WTF
10 years? Now that is funny. How we going to inform each other of the "jury verdict"? Not on Eccie.
... "coulda, woulda, shoulda" ....
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BTW: "We COULD HAVE found WMD's in Iraq!!! ... So the war was justified. Right? Originally Posted by LexusLover
From Appendix C no less!
I'm not the one getting bitch slapped with what the CBO actually said. You are.
: Originally Posted by WTF
That is absolutely priceless! You are truly a moronic buffoon with no clue what you are posting. Go back and read what you posted. Could...could....could.