Lot's of deflecting here: seems to be agreement that there is a problem,
Originally Posted by reddog1951
There's a problem but Libtards think it's guns and accessibility. Conservatives think it's a social ill not the method of killing.
but no viable solutions offered.
Originally Posted by reddog1951
You can't have a viable solution without identification of "WHAT" the problem is. Libtards think it's guns... okay, so we ban guns... does that stop criminals? Did the fact that the school was a gun-free-zone stop the shooter? Laws are only respected by law abiding citizens... those intent on being bad guys aren't going to let something like a law stop them.
No, we can't pull back guns already out there, arming teachers and armed guards (think Barney Fife) not practical.
Originally Posted by reddog1951
You say it can't be done, I say why not? We demand teachers be license... why not demand that they pass a handgun safety course and carry during the course of their job? It would be trivially easy actually. I bet that every gun shop would scramble to volunteer to train and equip them... we just sent 40 Billion Dollars to Ukraine... maybe we could do something to benefit Americans for a change?
How about holding parents/guardians financially and criminally responsible for their children,
Originally Posted by reddog1951
Great how would that have prevented this shooting?
raising the age of gun purchasing
Originally Posted by reddog1951
works for me... as long as the voting age goes up with it.
use without adult supervision to 21 (of course there was the supervised child that killed the range Master in Texas a while back on full auto).
Originally Posted by reddog1951
So you just admitted your own proposal will still not stop shootings?
In many cases, there are flags that were ignored...
Originally Posted by reddog1951
Yeah we've seen this movie before... Florida ring a bell?
2nd Amendment rights shouldn't be used as a shield to justify that...
Originally Posted by reddog1951
How many people lost their jobs for not preventing Parkland, FL shooting? When are the authorities EVER held to account for their inaction? Nope, taking away God given rights because some teacher, cop or bureaucrat didn't do their job is stupid beyond belief.
I doubt that was the intent of the founding fathers.
Originally Posted by reddog1951
Then you need to read the Constitution and the Federalist papers.. because insuring that every man has the right to defend himself, his family, and his community is exactly why the right to keep and bear arms was enshrined in the Bill of Rights. If you're ignorant maybe you shouldn't make stupid statements like that.
The Wild West died with the turn of the 20th century...watch the 1883 series and see if you really want to live like that or think a civilized society should.
Originally Posted by reddog1951
So your go-to example on what real life is like is a TV show? Typical libtard thought process... "It's like TV!"
The challenge is: Offer options to mitigate the problem, not just defend your "rights".
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Oh? So libtards are OK with dispensing with say the 4th amendment in order to prevent school shootings? What other rights are you willing to give up?
There are plenty of proposals that could be done... but libtards will not allow them to become mass enforced... mainly because they benefit when there is a school shooting... they crash press conferences to try and further their campaigns, they push for gun bans so that eventually, when the next Pandemic occurs, they can round up people and do as they please (JUST LIKE WE SAW IN AUSTRALIA).
No thanks.. you can always turn in your weapons and stay completely unarmed... I won't. My weapons have never hurt a soul, and God willing will never have to be used to take a life, but I want the option to use them if/when I need to.