Trump's red line

And we've seen SEVERAL times where North Korea has bombarded islands with SOUTH koreans and others living on it.. Torpedoing a South korean ship, and many other things...
So how long will we LET HIM provoke us before actually striking back?
OR are we to, as WTF and others want, just keep on caving INTO this bully, and 'negotiate (mean give him shit)"?? Originally Posted by garhkal

I think YOU should be Secretary of State.

We could fight bully with bully.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

Name another author who pretends to relate the *true history* of WWII's Pacific War who doesn't mention Japan's imperialistic expansion into China, SE Asia, the Rape of Nanking and the unprovoked Japanese attack on Pearl harbor and the Philippines, but goes overboard declaiming the U.S. use of the atomic bombs as nothing more than naked American imperialism. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

To say the attack on Pearl Harbor is simplistic at best... Funny, now we are teamed up with Japan against China.

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/05/oil_..._pearl_harbor/


Few people realize that it was oil — the shortage of oil — that precipitated the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.
Tensions between the United States and Japan were rising throughout that fateful year. Having initiated a war with China (America’s ally) and occupied Indochina, Japan’s totalitarian government was intent on imposing its will on all of the people of East Asia.

Time, please, on your request. In the meanwhile:

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/gene.../big/1224.html

Sound familiar?

http://thepresidency.org
http://thepresidency.org/experts/mr-michael-stecher#

http://www.encyclopedia.com/history/...-contra-affair

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...peachment.html
http://www.mikekinsley.com/bio/


Recommended reading only:

http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-...-his-publisher Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Chomsky is still an anti-American liar who makes a comfortable living misinforming those who are ignorant of history and who enjoy basking in misinformation.

“China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral,” it added. “If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.10efd51a15d2

Chomsky is still an anti-American liar who makes a comfortable living misinforming those who are ignorant of history. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

How much does he make, IBIdiot?

Who just went off topic? You've exposed yourself many times as a fraud and a dumb fuck. This post illustrates what a loser you are.We know it, you know it. Now get lost faggot. Originally Posted by bambino

Come on Bambino don't get all but hurt cause you are a coward. Put up or shut up.
I know why you picked the handle you did. ( Silly little one) It suits you. How am I a fraud? Is that anyway to talk to a taxpayer that supports you? Why don't you get a job and get off the government tit.

Ya mean like YOUR hero seArgent shitburner does YOUR protological exams, MT Fluffer ? With a strapon like YOU like ! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

Still missing your loverboy I see. I am sure he can not wait to meet up at HEB with you. I bet he has lost weight. I heard the reason he was fat was every time you blew him, your mom fixed him a sandwich.

Requested author: Barry Goldwater

Hey eccieuser9500, none of your links have anything to do with Chomsky. Or "Trump's red line". If you want to converse intelligently here, try to stay on topic. Originally Posted by lustylad

The topic is the Red Line sir. Subtext or topics.

On record here as part of the same nation you are.

To say the attack on Pearl Harbor is simplistic at best... Funny, now we are teamed up with Japan against China.

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/05/oil_..._pearl_harbor/

Few people realize that it was oil — the shortage of oil — that precipitated the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.
Tensions between the United States and Japan were rising throughout that fateful year. Having initiated a war with China (America’s ally) and occupied Indochina, Japan’s totalitarian government was intent on imposing its will on all of the people of East Asia. Originally Posted by WTF

FDR threatened Japan with sanctions if it expanded its imperialistic conquest. Japan invaded north Indochina. FDR retaliated, as promised, and imposed an embargo on fuel oil used to produce high grade aviation fuel. Japan rationalized that it only had enough fuel oil to support another 18 months, or so, of Japanese militaristic expansionism in East Asia, and therefore determined that it needed attack the U.S. so it could carry on its against the Dutch East Indies -- a source of fuel oil that would allow Japan to continue its conquest of its ultimate objective: a "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere."

How much does he make, IBIdiot? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You'd have to see his tax returns.

FDR threatened Japan with sanctions if it expanded its imperialistic conquest. Japan invaded north Indochina. FDR retaliated, as promised, and imposed an embargo on fuel oil used to produce high grade aviation fuel. Japan rationalized that it only had enough fuel oil to support another 18 months, or so, of Japanese militaristic expansionism in East Asia, and therefore determined that it needed attack the U.S. so it could carry on its against the Dutch East Indies -- a source of fuel oil that would allow Japan to continue its conquest of its ultimate objective: a "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere."
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Fast forward...Now we are backing both Japan and South Korea vs what is essentially China. My how times have changed , or have they?

Trump draws a red line in the sand and NK basically pisses on it.

Trump has now redrawn the red line in the sand back to where it originally was.....basically if you attack us...we will bomb the fuck out of you.

So this is much ado about nothing. Trump trying to get his poll numbers up.

There will be behind the scenes deals to make all parties look strong in their respective countries.

Trump is playing his base.

Chomsky is still an anti-American liar who makes a comfortable living misinforming those who are ignorant of history and who enjoy basking in misinformation. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Now you sound like Austin's famous. Cry me a river Daisy.



LBJ is Spanish for . . . .
D. Miller

Fast forward...Now we are backing both Japan and South Korea vs what is essentially China. My how times have changed , or have they?

Trump draws a red line in the sand and NK basically pisses on it.

Trump has now redrawn the red line in the sand back to where it originally was.....basically if you attack us...we will bomb the fuck out of you.

So this is much ado about nothing. Trump trying to get his poll numbers up.

There will be behind the scenes deals to make all parties look strong in their respective countries.

Trump is playing his base. Originally Posted by WTF

And in the mean time, it will be Business as usual, everybody will feel like they won.

Except North Korea will simply continue with their programs, (just like they have for the past 50 years), and in the future, probably within five years, they will have Thermonuclear Device, probably at least 1 megaton. And since there are those in the world to help them, (money), they will probably have a ballistic missle with enough thrust and a sophisticate enough guidance system to plant it any where on the Planet.

Keep in mind, the key to building a Thermonuclear Bomb is a Fission Bomb Trigger. (You need the temperature). They already have that, since it is much easier to refine the Isotopes of Hydrogen than it is to refine Uranium 235 or Plutonium, a Thermonuclear Bomb requires just the willingness to build it. The technology is pretty common.

If you disagree with this, give me the reason why. Is there anything that anybody is willing to do different than they have for the past 50 years to keep this North Korean Thugocracy from doing exactly what they have been doing?

That is, aside from making North Korea uninhabitable.

WDF has said on multiple occasions that we should let terrorists hit the US mainland. Originally Posted by gnadfly

You're a natural born liar, aren't yacha boy.

Is there anything that anybody is willing to do different than they have for the past 50 years to keep this North Korean Thugocracy from doing exactly what they have been doing?

That is, aside from making North Korea uninhabitable. Originally Posted by Jackie S

The "pressure" is the potential impact on South Korea. If that pressure can be neutralized or minimized substantially, then the leverage would be gone and the shock effect may cause rifts within the military and government. This explanation is lengthy, but the short version is ....

... the Soviets had a large, heavy tank presence along the Eastern front to Europe and their philosophy was the acceptance of a certain % of mechanized losses in a confrontation at the border. The overall plan in the Gulf War was the blue print of the European "defense" with the offensive movement of the Allies. It is my belief that the accuracy of the missile systems in effect a "one-on-one" strike, and personal and direct, as opposed to "nearby," the shock effect to a commander on the ground was demoralizing to the Soviet rank and file commanders. It was no longer them being a % ... it gave the appearance of a missile with their name on it. Our technology shocked and the military lost confidence in their government.

That's why they are trying to trade to get rid of the missile defense, because it neutralizes their leverage to a degree, but if there is a massive response to weapon systems aimed at South Korean, which marginalizes the effect on S.K., if not eliminate it, it may put the little fat boy in jeopardy ... it'll sure cut off his nuts and seal his lips. Think Gaddafi when Reagan reached out and touched his home ... he was like a mouse peeing on cotton after that ... and after he saw Iraq he gave up his shit to Bush II.