The trial of Donald J. Trump

I'm crushed.... Originally Posted by WTF

Under your own weight! Sugar fat white guy.

Under your own weight! Sugar fat white guy. Originally Posted by bambino

Speaking of sugar, Sugar...

Do you remember betting me Trump would have a 4% GDP year?

Speaking of sugar, Sugar...

Do you remember betting me Trump would have a 4% GDP year? Originally Posted by WTF

PM me your address. I’ll send you a pair of my jockeys to sniff!!!!!!! HOMO



I’ll wipe my asshole first. Just for you!!!!

You begging for my address again Sugar?

Move along boy....I'm done with you.

You begging for my address again Sugar?

Move along boy....I'm done with you. Originally Posted by WTF

Oh princess are your wittle fweelings hurt cause Bambino turned you down?
Little hissy fits like this are not healthy

Oh princess are your wittle fweelings hurt cause Bambino turned you down?
Little hissy fits like this are not healthy Originally Posted by claudefive

Are you really posting like a hair lip fairy?

Did anybody see Alan Dershowitz tonight? I watched about 20 minutes of him. After listening to that, I could see Joe Manchin and Doug Jones voting against Trump's removal from office. He gave them cover to do that. Basically he argued very convincingly that abuse of power and obstruction of justice aren't impeachable offenses, based on the Constitution and historical precedent.

To be fair, I didn't hear any of the other arguments, and do not like the system we've got in the USA where everyone is a criminal. The incarceration rate should be a lot lower IMHO.

You begging for my address again Sugar?

Move along boy....I'm done with you. Originally Posted by WTF

I’ll even autograph them for you!!!!!! One of your lifetime achievements!!!!!! What a fucking loser.

Did anybody see Alan Dershowitz tonight? I watched about 20 minutes of him. After listening to that, I could see Joe Manchin and Doug Jones voting against Trump's removal from office. He gave them cover to do that. Basically he argued very convincingly that abuse of power and obstruction of justice aren't impeachable offenses, based on the Constitution and historical precedent.

To be fair, I didn't hear any of the other arguments, and do not like the system we've got in the USA where everyone is a criminal. The incarceration rate should be a lot lower IMHO. Originally Posted by Tiny

If Joe Manchin and Doug Jones vote against impeachment, it won't be because they were swayed by Alan....it will be because they want to get reelected in Doug's case and Manchin will have been promised something for his home state.

The thing is....Jones is not getting reelected and I do not think Joe is up for reelection.

The Dems know Jones is gone but he might not!

The vote the Dems want is the one on more witnesses. They will beat Collins and the Senator from Colorado over the head with THAT vote.

The vote the Dems want is the one on more witnesses. They will beat Collins and the Senator from Colorado over the head with THAT vote. Originally Posted by WTF

I think you're right. It's a foregone conclusion that Trump won't be removed from office. And there's an election coming up in 8 months anyway. The Democrats are using this as an opportunity score points politically and improve their odds of winning the presidency and congressional seats.

As to Manchin, given the overwhelming support in West Virginia for Trump, I don't think the fact that he's not up for election this time around makes a difference. He'll probably vote in Trump's favor, regardless of whether he's offered any special favors.

Trump will most likely be acquitted in this trial....especially since he has a card he hasn't played yet. The insanity defense.

Did anybody see Alan Dershowitz tonight? I watched about 20 minutes of him. After listening to that, I could see Joe Manchin and Doug Jones voting against Trump's removal from office. He gave them cover to do that. Basically he argued very convincingly that abuse of power and obstruction of justice aren't impeachable offenses, based on the Constitution and historical precedent.

To be fair, I didn't hear any of the other arguments, and do not like the system we've got in the USA where everyone is a criminal. The incarceration rate should be a lot lower IMHO. Originally Posted by Tiny

I had the same thought after listening to Ken Starr who made essentially the same argument. I thought to myself, "if we could see into the minds of the Democrats, we would have heard an Oh! shit"! How the hell am I going to vote for 2 articles of impeachment that are un-constitutional to begin with and how can I be part of such a precedent of bringing such articles to the Senate floor.


Every single Republican running for the House can use Starr's and Dershowitz's arguments to show why no Democrat that voted to send over these articles can possibly be returned to the House after demonstrating they do not understand the Constitution, especially the obstruction of Congress who I am sure will get Democrats votes to dismiss because the arguments against a Congress having un-checked power over a Presidents Executive Privilege authority, must be dismissed.


Especially Schiff and Nadler who are on the record saying no such privilege exists and the SC has struck down this privilege in all matters the Congress brings up. For the Democrats to get what they want, a President could be called to testify before Congress on any matter they deem worthy and the SC has absolutely never said that. For this reason alone, these two, really all them should lose their seats.

Since October, according to RealClearPolitics, Trump's approval rating has gone from about -14% to a current -6.1%. That is significant. Unfortunately the polling does not break it down by state.

So why are Trump supporters complaining about the impeachment when it looks like it is having a rather positive impact on Trump's reelection campaign?

Because theys are ignorant rednecks?