When President TRUMP surely had America on the road
to Energy Independence.
### Salty
Hey berry, free up some PM space.
- Salty Again
- 03-12-2022, 11:56 PM
... Almost TWICE as high as 15 months ago.
When President TRUMP surely had America on the road
to Energy Independence.
### Salty
Hey berry, free up some PM space.
When President TRUMP surely had America on the road
to Energy Independence.
### Salty
Hey berry, free up some PM space.
- HDGristle
- 03-13-2022, 12:06 AM
... Almost TWICE as high as 15 months ago.A road that included Russian oil. And Canadian. And Middle Eastern.
When President TRUMP surely had America on the road
to Energy Independence.
### Salty
Hey berry, free up some PM space. Originally Posted by Salty Again
Look at the Trump years for Russia. Look at the Bush and Obama years as well.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le..._NUS-NRS_1&f=M
Deeper dive into 2021 for those interested
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_MOV...NRS_MBBL_M.htm
- eyecu2
- 03-13-2022, 08:15 AM
Easiest way to tell Democrats are losing sleep over high gas prices is when they say it's not Senile Bidens fault
Maybe they and Senile Biden should consult with Hunter - he was a self proclaimed gas expert in Ukraine
Meanwhile more pain at the pump for everyday Americans
Originally Posted by berryberry
More Hyperbole and deflecting by the guy who thinks the Avg gas price is over 5.50 by posting a pic of west coast prices which are usually 20-30% higher. What-about-isms are the Hallmark of a " if plan A. Doesn't work, shift to plan B. Mentality. Sad pathetic ruse at best by the right.
- bambino
- 03-13-2022, 08:22 AM
More Hyperbole and deflecting by the guy who thinks the Avg gas price is over 5.50 by posting a pic of west coast prices which are usually 20-30% higher. What-about-isms are the Hallmark of a " if plan A. Doesn't work, shift to plan B. Mentality. Sad pathetic ruse at best by the right. Originally Posted by eyecu2Gasoline is at historic highs. There’s nothing you or Mr Ghristle can say to spin this otherwise. Gas will be $5 a gallon here soon. In case you haven’t noticed, Iran bombed our Consulate in Iraq last night. But Joey Bribes is begging them for oil.
- HDGristle
- 03-13-2022, 09:02 AM
No one is saying they aren't at historic highs, Bam. But further hyperbole doesn't address the issue.
For context, addressing the consumption factor is something you ignore. What would happen to gas prices if the US increased its avg yearly fuel efficiency by 1 mile per gallon?
There are levers that can be pulled as part of a balanced approach forward where we're still using gasoline, still increasing our domestic production and still using Canadian tar sands, while increasing efficiencies, increasing the volume of EV's on the road and bringing down the cost of crude for refineries. But you need to look at ALL the levers. Not just focus on drilling more, spouting off about XL or tossing more hyperbolic gas on the fire about a war on energy production. Let's also discuss finding consensus on what US energy independence means. Because we've seen at least 3 different iterations of it in this thread.
For context, addressing the consumption factor is something you ignore. What would happen to gas prices if the US increased its avg yearly fuel efficiency by 1 mile per gallon?
There are levers that can be pulled as part of a balanced approach forward where we're still using gasoline, still increasing our domestic production and still using Canadian tar sands, while increasing efficiencies, increasing the volume of EV's on the road and bringing down the cost of crude for refineries. But you need to look at ALL the levers. Not just focus on drilling more, spouting off about XL or tossing more hyperbolic gas on the fire about a war on energy production. Let's also discuss finding consensus on what US energy independence means. Because we've seen at least 3 different iterations of it in this thread.
- bambino
- 03-13-2022, 09:14 AM
No one is saying they aren't at historic highs, Bam. But further hyperbole doesn't address address the issue.What? Cars have been becoming more fuel efficient for years. And electric cars are becoming more popular. Posting facts isn’t hyperbole. Oil and NG having been climbing since Biden’s Inauguration Day. As a result, inflation. That’s just a hard fact. And it’s going to get worse. Look no further than the White House. Ooops, he’s never at the White House. Look to Delaware. He’s hiding there.
For context, addressing the consumption factor.
What would happen to gas prices if the US increased its fuel efficiency by 1 mile per gallon? Originally Posted by HDGristle
- HDGristle
- 03-13-2022, 09:25 AM
What else has been happening since Inauguration day, comparing not just 2022 to 2021, but 2022 and 2021 to 2020?
What started prior to Inauguration day?
And why does it make major domestic oil producers skittish about getting caught rushing to ramp up production and field more rigs?
What started prior to Inauguration day?
And why does it make major domestic oil producers skittish about getting caught rushing to ramp up production and field more rigs?
- berryberry
- 03-13-2022, 09:31 AM
Gasoline is at historic highs. There’s nothing you or Mr Ghristle can say to spin this otherwise. Gas will be $5 a gallon here soon. In case you haven’t noticed, Iran bombed our Consulate in Iraq last night. But Joey Bribes is begging them for oil. Originally Posted by bambinoExactly Bam !!!
And I guess to the libtards prices in other states do not matter . Why is that? Are they incapable of not understanding there is more to the country than just the Pittsburgh region? Or are they as usual trying to spread misinformation in order to defend Senile Biden?
Under President Trump, the country was net energy independent. That's a fact they can't dispute. They try to obfuscate the issue saying well we still imported oil. Yes and we exported more fossil fuel than we imported, hence the NET. And President Trump recognized the need to move away from oil from countries that hate us, hence why the Keystone XL pipeline was so important. Alas Senile Biden and te libtards with their anti-American agenda destroyed all of that and look at where we are. Record high gas prices
- berryberry
- 03-13-2022, 09:36 AM
... Almost TWICE as high as 15 months ago.Salty - PM space open now. My premium lapsed a few days ago and I didn't realize it reduces the size of the mailbox. I was going to wait to post a number of reviews from Florida until I got back but did a couple last night
When President TRUMP surely had America on the road
to Energy Independence.
### Salty
Hey berry, free up some PM space. Originally Posted by Salty Again
Lots of news stories in Florida how no one is happy with Senile Biden and the prices at the pump
- berryberry
- 03-13-2022, 09:45 AM
What? Cars have been becoming more fuel efficient for years. Originally Posted by bambinoNot only that Bam but it is moronic to say the US should increase the fuel efficiency of cars by 1 mpg. That's the equivalent of Pete ButtPlug telling Americans if you can't afford the high price of gas our administration caused, you should buy a $60,000 electric vehicle.
Most Americans can't afford to go out and buy a new vehicle to increase fuel efficiency 1 mpg. So anyone mentioning this is not a serious individual and is just trying to deflect with more misinformation.
- HDGristle
- 03-13-2022, 09:47 AM
I know it's not just about Pittsburgh, but you're picking the extreme examples and trying to spike the ball like you scored a game winning touchdown, as usual. We have one of the highest gas taxes in the nation in PA and yet are only running a bit over the national average. That means there's gotta be far lower examples and volume towards the avg. Where's gas currently the cheapest?
I applaud you for trying to misdirect by using the visual for psychological impact, but there's are reasons I'm waiting to see if you touch on for why it's goddamn silly to try to have the conversation at the extremes.
You also jump between domestic energy independence and North American energy independence faster than a Figueroa street walker going car to car.
What was the percentage of Russian oil to U.S. consumption? Why is consumption a vital factor for legitimate energy independence? Why is net exporter not the same as energy independent?
As for fuel efficiency... what would the impact be? What are other ways to reduce consumption in the short term and long term? Don't just jump on questions you don't want to answer and label them as misinformation when you're not comfortable with where they're going to go as if there isn't fertile room for discussion
I applaud you for trying to misdirect by using the visual for psychological impact, but there's are reasons I'm waiting to see if you touch on for why it's goddamn silly to try to have the conversation at the extremes.
You also jump between domestic energy independence and North American energy independence faster than a Figueroa street walker going car to car.
What was the percentage of Russian oil to U.S. consumption? Why is consumption a vital factor for legitimate energy independence? Why is net exporter not the same as energy independent?
As for fuel efficiency... what would the impact be? What are other ways to reduce consumption in the short term and long term? Don't just jump on questions you don't want to answer and label them as misinformation when you're not comfortable with where they're going to go as if there isn't fertile room for discussion
- chizzy
- 03-13-2022, 10:27 AM
Kansas is lowest at 3.82
We are around 4.46 per gallon as is most of the country
2019 average 2.60, so it's close to doubling.
We are around 4.46 per gallon as is most of the country
2019 average 2.60, so it's close to doubling.
- eyecu2
- 03-13-2022, 10:52 AM
Chizzy don't you think pricing has to do with global economics also??
I mean it's really not Biden's fault, but it is his problem.
The real reason oil prices are higher and why there was a reduction in domestic production from highs-. Its more complicated than just pointing at someone and casting blame.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=47056
U.S. crude oil production averaged 11.3 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2020, down 935,000 b/d (8%) from the record annual average high of 12.2 million b/d in 2019. The 2020 decrease in production was the largest annual decline in the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s records. The production decline resulted from reduced drilling activity related to low oil prices in 2020.
In January 2020, U.S. crude oil production reached a peak of 12.8 million b/d. In March 2020, crude oil prices decreased because of the sudden drop in petroleum demand that resulted from the global response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. The declining prices led crude oil operators to shut in wells and limit the number of wells brought online, lowering the output for the major oil-producing regions. In May, U.S. crude oil production reached its lowest average monthly volume for the year at 10.0 million b/d.
U.S. crude oil production by state or region
Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Petroleum Supply Monthly
In 2020, more crude oil was produced in Texas than in any other state or region of the United States, accounting for 43% of the national total. Crude oil production in Texas averaged 4.87 million b/d in 2020, a decrease of 205,000 b/d (4%) from the record high of 5.07 million b/d set in 2019.
The Federal Offshore Gulf of Mexico saw the largest decrease in crude oil production, falling by 245,000 b/d (13%) to an annual average of 1.65 million b/d in 2020. Several hurricanes and tropical storms struck the Gulf of Mexico last year, causing operators to evacuate platforms and shut in production. North Dakota had the second-largest decrease at 242,000 b/d (17%) to an annual average of 1.18 million b/d. Oklahoma had the largest percentage decrease at 19%, falling to an annual average of 469,000 b/d.
The largest statewide increase in crude oil production in 2020 was in New Mexico, where it increased by 133,000 b/d (15%) to a record annual average high of 1.04 million b/d. The growth in New Mexico came from the Permian Basin, which spans parts of western Texas and eastern New Mexico.
I mentioned before about wells being shut in, and sometimes that's a permanent event and sometimes not. The reactionary time of markets who once stopped production due to low prices, will respond to increased pricing now. How long that takes is yet to be seen. Almost half of the well producers went out of business due to low pricing and the pandemic, so the reactionary time is likely going to be higher. I'm not sure how that is a president's fault but it is his problem to solve.
I mean it's really not Biden's fault, but it is his problem.
The real reason oil prices are higher and why there was a reduction in domestic production from highs-. Its more complicated than just pointing at someone and casting blame.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=47056
U.S. crude oil production averaged 11.3 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2020, down 935,000 b/d (8%) from the record annual average high of 12.2 million b/d in 2019. The 2020 decrease in production was the largest annual decline in the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s records. The production decline resulted from reduced drilling activity related to low oil prices in 2020.
In January 2020, U.S. crude oil production reached a peak of 12.8 million b/d. In March 2020, crude oil prices decreased because of the sudden drop in petroleum demand that resulted from the global response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. The declining prices led crude oil operators to shut in wells and limit the number of wells brought online, lowering the output for the major oil-producing regions. In May, U.S. crude oil production reached its lowest average monthly volume for the year at 10.0 million b/d.
U.S. crude oil production by state or region
Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Petroleum Supply Monthly
In 2020, more crude oil was produced in Texas than in any other state or region of the United States, accounting for 43% of the national total. Crude oil production in Texas averaged 4.87 million b/d in 2020, a decrease of 205,000 b/d (4%) from the record high of 5.07 million b/d set in 2019.
The Federal Offshore Gulf of Mexico saw the largest decrease in crude oil production, falling by 245,000 b/d (13%) to an annual average of 1.65 million b/d in 2020. Several hurricanes and tropical storms struck the Gulf of Mexico last year, causing operators to evacuate platforms and shut in production. North Dakota had the second-largest decrease at 242,000 b/d (17%) to an annual average of 1.18 million b/d. Oklahoma had the largest percentage decrease at 19%, falling to an annual average of 469,000 b/d.
The largest statewide increase in crude oil production in 2020 was in New Mexico, where it increased by 133,000 b/d (15%) to a record annual average high of 1.04 million b/d. The growth in New Mexico came from the Permian Basin, which spans parts of western Texas and eastern New Mexico.
I mentioned before about wells being shut in, and sometimes that's a permanent event and sometimes not. The reactionary time of markets who once stopped production due to low prices, will respond to increased pricing now. How long that takes is yet to be seen. Almost half of the well producers went out of business due to low pricing and the pandemic, so the reactionary time is likely going to be higher. I'm not sure how that is a president's fault but it is his problem to solve.
- berryberry
- 03-13-2022, 11:07 AM
- HDGristle
- 03-13-2022, 11:23 AM
Yes, he said that as an aspirational goal for a long-term transformation of U.S. energy policy.
He won't be alive by the time we stop using fossil. You won't be. I won't be.
But curiously, while you're focused on oil and gas. What's happened with coal recently?
He won't be alive by the time we stop using fossil. You won't be. I won't be.
But curiously, while you're focused on oil and gas. What's happened with coal recently?