The problem then is why 500,000 more deaths occurred in 2020 than 2019. The only explanation I can think of would be the CDC faked the numbers. This shows how I got that,They faked the numbers because they want people to get the vaccine. If they never reported exaggerated numbers nobody would have a sense of urgency to get vaccinated. The Pandemic proved people can be controlled. When people are out and about they are wearing a mask and practicing Social Distancing because over a half million people have died from a Virus that Government Officials have stated they don't know much about. Then with in a year they roll out an experimental Vaccine from four different Pharmaceutical Companies and claim a 95% effective rate. Yeah there is some fakery going on. Probably more than any of us realize.
https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=106...&postcount=175 Originally Posted by Tiny
Aren't we at "herd immunity" yet? Or has herd immunity been discredited as a politically incorrect medical concept? Like if you get vaccinated you don't risk getting the virus. Originally Posted by gnadflyPersonally, I'm getting my second shot on Thursday.
Personally, I'm getting my second shot on Thursday.What's in the Second Shot?
My arm was tender for a day after first dose.
https://www.statesman.com/story/news...so/7238425002/
Originally Posted by VerySkeptical
I have coworkers who get knocked out for at least a day when getting the shot, some 3-4 days. My elderly parents got theirs and had zero reaction. One of my siblings was out for a week, but he's a medical nightmare.The worst outcomes your friends experienced from taking the vaccine sound a lot better than the outcomes your doctor is seeing from some of his COVID patients.
For the actual virus, my doc has seen:
- Completely asymptomatic folks in every age group
- 90 y.o.'s getting a case of the sniffles
- People a year later who still can't taste or smell
- People a year later who're still on oxygen
- a college female athlete have a stroke and is now wheelchair bound
- People who have flu-like symptoms and die in their sleep
This shit is all over the place. Originally Posted by GastonGlock
They faked the numbers because they want people to get the vaccine. If they never reported exaggerated numbers nobody would have a sense of urgency to get vaccinated. The Pandemic proved people can be controlled. When people are out and about they are wearing a mask and practicing Social Distancing because over a half million people have died from a Virus that Government Officials have stated they don't know much about. Then with in a year they roll out an experimental Vaccine from four different Pharmaceutical Companies and claim a 95% effective rate. Yeah there is some fakery going on. Probably more than any of us realize. Originally Posted by Levianon17I'm not talking about COVID deaths. I'm talking about deaths from all causes, and there were 500,000 more in 2020 than 2019 according to the CDC. It would take a massive coverup to pull that off, and I don't believe people would have the capability or motivation to do it. You get caught involved in something like that and you go to the big house. A foreign government might want to do that, fake an extra 500,000 death records, but it wouldn't have the capability. How about the theory there's some guy in the CDC over-counting death records as they come in or generating fake death certificates because he's being paid off by the Pharma companies or China. And nobody's looking over his shoulder. Yeah, possible, but very, very far fetched.
^^Well yes, but the crisis has to continue Exaggerated and Politicized for control and distraction Originally Posted by rexdutchmanOK, you could make that argument, but what if you limit it to just the vaccines. The Democrats are behind vaccines. The Republicans are behind vaccines. Trump was on Hannity yesterday and strongly encouraged people to get vaccinated. And correctly noted that many, many people's lives will be saved because of Operation Warp Speed.
SI've got no problem with your number, if by "99% more" you mean twice as many. I've read about one person dying from the vaccine in the USA. I'd be very surprised if at least 2 people haven't died from it already.
Possibly 99 % more vac shot deaths an injuries then reported Originally Posted by rexdutchman
I've got no problem with your number, if by "99% more" you mean twice as many. I've read about one person dying from the vaccine in the USA. I'd be very surprised if at least 2 people haven't died from it already.You're too fixated on this 500,000 deaths.
If you meant 99X more, and, say, 99 people have died from the vaccine, that would still be an extreme drop in the bucket compared to the number of lives saved. Ninety-nine is a whole lot smaller than 500,000. Originally Posted by Tiny
Wow, the amount of denial, about an actual disease, and the vaccines for it, is stunning.
Covid-19 is not a hoax. The vaccines are not control mechanisms. If you believe either, it's time to read a medical journal.
Seriously. Originally Posted by pfunkdenver
Wow, the amount of denial, about an actual disease, and the vaccines for it, is stunning.These are the same folks who pounded the table about how the great and mighty Trump accelerated the vaccine approval process, cut red tape, got the job done in warp speed.
Covid-19 is not a hoax. The vaccines are not control mechanisms. If you believe either, it's time to read a medical journal.
Seriously. Originally Posted by pfunkdenver
These are the same folks who pounded the table about how the great and mighty Trump accelerated the vaccine approval process, cut red tape, got the job done in warp speed.
Oh but since the election was stolen, fuck these vaccines. All they can do now is make Biden look good. Originally Posted by Chung Tran
Wow, the amount of denial, about an actual disease, and the vaccines for it, is stunning.Nobody said it was a hoax. I don't think there is a medical journal out there with much information about Covid-19 since it's only been a year.
Covid-19 is not a hoax. The vaccines are not control mechanisms. If you believe either, it's time to read a medical journal.
Seriously. Originally Posted by pfunkdenver
You're too fixated on this 500,000 deaths. Originally Posted by Levianon17That happens to be the total number of deaths in the USA during 2020 less the total number of deaths in 2019. It's also the number you threw out as a an estimate of deaths from Covid, from the start of the epidemic to present. To be clear, you disagree with the estimate.
Nobody said it was a hoax. I don't think there is a medical journal out there with much information about Covid-19 since it's only been a year. Originally Posted by Levianon17There's a ton of info in medical journals. Go to scholar.google.com and search for something like coronavirus or COVID if you'd like to get an idea.