19 Trees "Alert" Thread / Resignation Story... Inquiring Minds want to know.

Wrong is wrong or is it? I have seen a girl or two in my time. Many new to the hobby. Now I don't do half hour sessions as a rule. Almost ALWAYS an hour. Many of these sessions turn into over night stays, going out to dinner or lunch etc. Now I don't pay for this time and never will. I have also helped many providers set up accounts and taken pictures for which I take NOTHING! Many girls feel they owe me. I refuse to take discounts or free sessions. I keep it very business like. If "we" do BCD I PAY! NO EXCEPTIONS! Why do I do this? Simple...I want to do something nice for someone....if I get something out of it, I no longer am doing something nice, now I doing something to get something.

Now I could never be MOD because what I do is viewed by many as "cheating" providers out of time. There are those that are of the mind set that providers should ALWAYS be paid for their time.

So if a MOD sets countless half hour appointments and posts reviews with MSOG or plainly states the time went way over. That's a big problem. As a MOD this practice will bite you in the ass. When I meet a lady who is fairly new and she tells me how nice Mr MOD was but the session lasted 2 plus hours....then complain she only got $150.00....that's a big problem. I'm certain for this reason many MODS don't post reviews. I appreciate the reviews but rest assured as a MOD if your only paying for half hour appointments and your staying way over... It will be view as taking advantage!

So lets recap....if you look to get free time, expanded menus, OTC time, free sessions from agencies or discounted sessions ....Don't be a MOD! I point the finger at NO ONE!

I am not. I, as whispers does, have a strong want for information to be had, and people that do things that aren't right to be called in their actions. Simple as that.

Whispers is being put through the wash because he chose to speak up, I just want people to know that these claims are not out of malice towards Trees, but from providers. No other ladies have chosen to speak up, and that's completely understandable.

Hopefully my posts will encourage more women to post and the public at large can become more informed. Originally Posted by DDMcGee

So still hearsay, got it!

IB

So still hearsay, got it!

IB Originally Posted by Iron Butterfly

SL seems to know exactly what went down :-)

So still hearsay, got it!

IB Originally Posted by Iron Butterfly

IB , you seem to have a problem grasping she has access. Can't post that stuff up! Big man show us how it is done, go into ML and post a thread here! Guarantee you're too scared to do it! I'd do it if I had PA , and laugh my ass off for 2 weeks . But the ladies will lose 200 -1000 per day. Hell Claire says she's making 6 grand a month, pony up 3 grand after posting your ML stuff, and everyone in this thread can meet up for pizza and beer on your dime. Put you're money where your mouth is, if your bank is as big it'll be no problem for you !

A new court jester is born!

IB , you seem to have a problem grasping she has access. Can't post that stuff up! Big man show us how it is done, go into ML and post a thread here! Guarantee you're too scared to do it! I'd do it if I had PA , and laugh my ass off for 2 weeks . But the ladies will lose 200 -1000 per day. Hell Claire says she's making 6 grand a month, pony up 3 grand after posting your ML stuff, and everyone in this thread can meet up for pizza and beer on your dime. Put you're money where your mouth is, if your bank is as big it'll be no problem for you !

A new court jester is born! Originally Posted by Bloated Love Knuckle

No worries BLK, just post a review and you can get PA!

I didn't disable and ditch my reviews and PA access to become UTR, just to throw that away to placate you Hark. All the gay WK's are doing far more harm to Trees than Whispers. Did you notice this thread has spread to SA, and Htown? That's because people keep clicking on this because of you! While you're swinging from Trees little berries, had you considered that? Now you guys have got people who post like maniacs in forums nationwide, and live to destroy involved. Congratulations!

Q: Who serves under the court jester?
A: The village idiot.

Gotta get back to work so I can pay full rate,and still see the ladies

This thread seems to have become completely pointless with nowhere productive to go.

A bunch of uninvolved parties arguing about a monger's hearsay misconduct although the only one's who have actually spent time with him are chiming in with positive feedback.

I am not supporting Trees. I know nothing about him other than ..

a) Multiple directly involved providers like him enough to defend him openly
b) No directly involved providers are upset enough to support the accusation openly (No provider will lose any business simply by chiming in to the thread with "I was there and the accusations are true in my case"
c) His 3rd person posting style is annoying as hell

I am merely viewing the obvious facts as they apply to this thread.

Guilty or not clearly it is not nearly as big a deal to the supposed victims as it is to the self appointed prosecuting spokesmen.

I didn't disable and ditch my reviews and PA access to become UTR, just to throw that away to placate you Hark. All the gay WK's are doing far more harm to Trees than Whispers. Did you notice this thread has spread to SA, and Htown? That's because people keep clicking on this because of you! While you're swinging from Trees little berries, had you considered that? Now you guys have got people who post like maniacs in forums nationwide, and live to destroy involved. Congratulations!

Q: Who serves under the court jester?
A: The village idiot.

Gotta get back to work so I can pay full rate,and still see the ladies Originally Posted by Bloated Love Knuckle

Ahhh excuse me Mr BLK!
I thought you were newb here since your join date was last month.
My bad.
I don't know why one would disable an account.
Don't really care.

As to the rest of your ramble.
I kinda pick out that you think because I offered help to a (presumed) newbe that I have an positive opinion about Trees and a negative opinion on Whispers.

I have always enjoyed Whispers posts and I find his posting style respectful , honest, and clear. He also refrains from name calling and cursing.

This is a sign of a intelligent decent human being.

At the risk of more name calling and cursing from you, I would suggest you try to emulate his style and attitude .
Heck you might not have to start whole new account names anymore!

I didn't disable and ditch my reviews and PA access to become UTR, just to throw that away to placate you Hark. All the gay WK's are doing far more harm to Trees than Whispers. Did you notice this thread has spread to SA, and Htown? That's because people keep clicking on this because of you! While you're swinging from Trees little berries, had you considered that? Now you guys have got people who post like maniacs in forums nationwide, and live to destroy involved. Congratulations!

Q: Who serves under the court jester?
A: The village idiot.

Gotta get back to work so I can pay full rate,and still see the ladies Originally Posted by Bloated Love Knuckle

$250 buys life time PA IJS

So, its good to be a mod!!!

Wait, it suckes to be a mod!!!

anyway,, you have to love politics!!!

I have always enjoyed Whispers posts and I find his posting style respectful , honest, and clear. He also refrains from name calling and cursing.

This is a sign of a intelligent decent human being. Originally Posted by harkontume

Why Thank-you.

MEN, for a half a second, put yourself in the mind frame of a new provider

1) think scared of everything,
2) hesitant to make the wrong move
3) trying to establish a good reputation
4) looking for guidance from seasoned hobbiests

Then you get wronged, but you have so little experience that you don't even know you were wronged

Once you figure out you have been wronged, you think that no one will believe you because of his stellar reputation on the board and position of authority. Originally Posted by DDMcGee

Well said. I separated it from the rest for those with simpler minds that might miss it.

For 13 years I've been about information..... keeping it out there for everyone to access and make their own decisions..... Sometimes that rocks the boat....
Originally Posted by Whispers

I have read 12 years worth of those posts, though less of those in Houston, and I suggest that the *information* is often selective and self-serving for debate fodder.

Decisions about what? What is the end-game/desired outcome here? The man is gone from staff and moving away. Barn door....horse. What is to be gained from this? Do you require some closure?

I don't see how this has become anyone else's business but Trees, the women involved, and the powers that be at eccie. Unless these women specifically asked you to air their laundry in a public forum, you should have not have done so. These women are not gonna lose money by speaking up. What you say on here really doesn't effect things that much in that regard, unless there's a huge alert or something. That would probably do it. But otherwise, not really, and, hell, they would probably make money what with this huge outpouring of support. Really no real reason not to come forward, except for knowledge of this kind does kind of bring the other vultures out of hiding. But, I can totally understand just wanting to keep a low profile in general. It looks to me like if this did, indeed, happen, it was handled, and handled in an efficient, dignified way. The powers that be were alerted, and they took care of it. If I had been one of these alleged women, I would be upset if the whole business and been resolved and it was broadcast to everyone on the board. I'm just not understanding how and why this became so pertinent to the rest of the community.

I liked Trees. He sounded smart and interesting. I never met him, but I was pleasantly surprised at his decorum as a moderator. I even started to kind of take to the whole third person thing. I think Anne might have had a little board crush.