public land not protected
public land not protectedSo a little mud is going to bring the end of the world? Is that what you are saying?
Originally Posted by CJ7
So a little mud is going to bring the end of the world? Is that what you are saying?Yes, it is. Idiot.
http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/t.../ride_e02e.htm Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
Yes, it is. Idiot.Your inner Liberal is shinning brite on this one. Please don't stop... I'm having a blast. Have a good read... RINO FUCKFACE.
Especially when the mud is created by assholes riding on ATVs and destroying the habitats of the animals living there. You don't see any animals in that photo, do you?
Just the usual beer-guzzling, NASCAR enthusiasts out to create chaos and ruin the quiet enjoyment of others.
I can't believe you are actually taking the side of ATVs in national parks. Originally Posted by ExNYer
Actually, no, you were pretty much advocating that privatizing every last acre of federal land. Really? Point that one out, please.I hope you feel better about yourself after making stuff up about me. And dodging the question.
You don't get to rephrase your earlier statement (already a second attempt) which was: Well, I did, anyway.
"Let me restate the question. What do we gain from federal ownership of otherwise productive land? I understand about not wanting a convenience store at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, or a casino at Mt. Rushmore, but the vast majority of federal land is not a National Park or Monument. So, to make this a little easier for CBJ7 to grasp, if we take the monuments and parks out of the equation, what do we gain by federal ownership of otherwise productive land?"
So, to recap, you wanted to take the national parks and monuments out of the equation, but put the VAST MAJORITY of federal land up for sale. Now, be honest. Is that what I said? No.
So, no, I did not exaggerate your question "well beyond its parameters". Actually, you did.
I pretty much hit the nail on the head - once you take the national parks and monuments out, right? Better check your thumb. You completely missed the nail.
And what other productive uses of land are there besides businesses and housing? When I wrote "businesses" I wasn't taking about just stores and malls. I mean ANY business, including mining, farming, tourism, etc.
And as for the Ayn Rand comment, even if you didn't mention her, it is well known how much value she placed on productive use of land and pretty much everything else. Then argue with her. Why bring her up in an argument against me? Unbridled capitalism at its finest. That also is NOT a conservative position. Which means what, exactly? I am not a conservative. Originally Posted by ExNYer
BLM land ..That picture is from Yellowstone National Park which is administered by the "National Park Service", CBJ7; not BLM.
Originally Posted by CJ7
As stated before, you should quit while you are behind. But you keep digging deeper.Once again you throw up your straw man arguments and then knock them down so you can run around in your pathetic little circles and pretend you achieved something.
This time, try to read all the way to the bottom before making statements that are disproved or contradicted by something I later write.
You like to simply "declare" that the BLM is acting arbitrarily, like you are a judge handing down a ruling.
But you are not, you are just an anti-government zealot with WITH NO FACTS to back up his argument.
All of your supposed fact about the tortoise and Spanish cattle are NONSENSE. The tortoise issue is irrelevant even if someone in the BLM once used it as an excuse. The BLM can close federal land from grazing without using the tortoise as an excuse. But you will keep beating that dead horse to avoid explaining why Bundy has ANY rights to graze on federal land free of charge.
Another dead horse you will beat is the supposed connection to Harry Reid and that solar farm. Except, as pointed out above, Bundy was fighting the BLM for YEARS before that solar farm was ever proposed, the solar farm plan was also scrapped years ago, AND - most importantly - the solar farm is located 200 miles away on the other side of Las Vegas and has NOTHING to do with Bundy's grazing area.
Strawman much, redneck?
So let me ask again - What LEGAL claim does Bundy have to graze on federal land free of charge?
If you can't answer THAT question, IBHankering, just admit it.
And pointing out that the IRS has snooped on Tea Party groups or that the BLM threw some woman on the ground - even if true - is NOT an argument demonstrating that Bundy has a LEGAL claim.
[/I] Originally Posted by ExNYer
Looks like a suckoff between Ib and JL... Originally Posted by i'va biggenThat's not what you posted earlier, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
I Have sucked dick in 50 states , and 20 foreign countries. Originally Posted by i'va biggen
http://www.ourpubliclands.org/oil_shale_public_meetingsPerhaps you're the ignorant fuck-tard that needs to STFU, because you're the ignorant fuck-tard that was using a bogus source to support your POV, CBJ7.
stfu creepy Originally Posted by CJ7