Is the local hobby scene as bad as this board makes it seem?

I guess I'm low class cause I'd never pay a deposit to any woman.

I guess I'm low class cause I'd never pay a deposit to any woman. Originally Posted by pittlicker

Who said that makes you low class?

It simply makes you ineligible to providers who require a deposit. Easy peasy! Just move on

I'm just shocked that a lot of you actually read Tolstoy's novels. Jeez. However to call him out for being nasty to girls because he calls them "street girls" is ridiculously hypocritical. I've seen some of the same guys bitching about that who have absolutely blasted girls who they don't like or have an issue with. Originally Posted by Charley3

There are differences between trashing every girl who was reviewed or who posts here like Tolstoy did and blasting a particular girl or girls for very specific reasons. That is the difference.

I never said certain girls did not deserve blasted and called out for either overpriced GPS, requiring deposits, having dangerous other hobbies, not being safe or who knows what else based on what is important to you. But you can't put everyone here in the same blanket statement that they are all "street girls" which is what he did

That's funny because every time I raise the ceiling on what I am willing to pay, the girls seem to stay the same. Originally Posted by bkfantasy

Do yourself a favor, stop raising the ceiling. Nearly all my best hobby experiences were at really reasonable rates. And my worst were at higher rates.

There are differences between trashing every girl who was reviewed or who posts here like Tolstoy did and blasting a particular girl or girls for very specific reasons. That is the difference.

I never said certain girls did not deserve blasted and called out for either overpriced GPS, requiring deposits, having dangerous other hobbies, not being safe or who knows what else based on what is important to you. But you can't put everyone here in the same blanket statement that they are all "street girls" which is what he did Originally Posted by berryberry

Wrong. I have specified that most Tryst girls with any sort of "history" and "reputation" from Indys are probably not "unpredictable" variables like many of the (yep) "street" girls of Listcrawler and all the other current-era CL and BP type site providers who (yep) are reviewed on Eccie. If they were on Indys and they have any sort of "history" and "reputation" from Indys then most likely those ex-Indys Tryst girls are safe to see....

Let's face it, most Eccie PGH reviews ARE of "street" girls. Scroll down the first page and then the second and then the third page of public reviews. Mostly new and (yep) Unknown girls advertising on (yep) current-era CL and BP type sites like Listcrawler. And then actually read the reviews of the guys. Yes, most of the reviews of Listcrawler-type girls are "erratic" (my parentheses) and "unpredictable" (my parentheses) to put it mildly. CL and BP type girls of yesteryear now advertising on CL and BP type (yep) "street" sites of the current era. Read the reviews of the guys. Just like the old CL and BP type girls. And the ex-Indys Tryst girls at least you know you probably Won't be Robbed or Killed....

SA girls are a broad, varied Mix of the same Listcrawler-type girls as Eccie, "kept women" who actually want to see just one (1) guy, many local college girls who are "newbie" to the hobby, and many orthodox providers just like all the historic providers of ASPD and Indys. Sure, there are "street" girls on SA, and a hell of a lot of college girls and traditional, orthodox providers. And the Tryst girls are easy to ID on SA because they often post their same photo's on both sites....

Read all the reviews in the PGH reviews section of Eccie. Most of those reviews ARE of (yep) "street" girls who are Unpredictable and Erratic to put it mildly. And actually the Tryst girls who used to be on Indys tend to get the Best reviews on Eccie. So damn right, there ARE a hell of a lot of "street" girls reviewed on Eccie. And a much smaller number of ex-Indys Tryst girls. And many SA guy players will say they won't review SA girls on this site because SA girls don't want ANYTHING to do with a "hobby" site like this. If they specify they want reviews then review them. If they don't even know about "hobby" sites then guys should Not assume any SA girl wants to be "publicly" reviewed.....

I don't mind clarifying and I don't care what any guy here thinks about it: there ARE a hell of a lot of "street" girls reviewed on this site. The PGH review section reads like the old ASPD CL and BP-type site reviewed providers of yesteryear. Don't take my word for it. Read the reviews on the first and second and third page of PGH reviews. Damn right- a whole lot of Listcrawler and (yep) "street" girls with Occasional reviews of ex Indys Tryst girls and also the Occassional review of SA girls and many of those turn into "Don't post her number here!" snafus. So Damn....Right there ARE a lot of "street" girls reviewed on this site....

Putting “street” in quotations doesn’t make it less demeaning.

Doubling down on an offending statement is a sure sign of a sociopath or a narcissist, or both.

I really find your attitude to be condescending and rude. Please note that I am talking nicely to you and don’t expect a demeaning diatribe in response.

Putting “street” in quotations doesn’t make it less demeaning.

Doubling down on an offending statement is a sure sign of a sociopath or a narcissist, or both.

I really find your attitude to be condescending and rude. Please note that I am talking nicely to you and don’t expect a demeaning diatribe in response. Originally Posted by pensfan123456

You can interpret this post anyway you want- be offended by it or take it as it is: Scroll through the first and then second and then third page of the PGH public review section. How many of those reviews and the girls reviewed there would you consider "street"? Don't take my word for it. Read the reviews. How would YOU categorize them? You can interpet this post anyways you want and I suggest actually reading the reviews. How would YOU categorize them....?

There are differences between trashing every girl who was reviewed or who posts here like Tolstoy did and blasting a particular girl or girls for very specific reasons. That is the difference.

I never said certain girls did not deserve blasted and called out for either overpriced GPS, requiring deposits, having dangerous other hobbies, not being safe or who knows what else based on what is important to you. But you can't put everyone here in the same blanket statement that they are all "street girls" which is what he did Originally Posted by berryberry

I agree with most of what you said here except for blasting girls and calling them out for “overpriced GPS, requiring deposits”. One guys “overpriced” is another guys comfort level.
Now I agree I wouldnt see someone like Dreamgirl. She has a great body and her price is fine for me but she demands a deposit and real world info. That’s not happening with me, but others may be fine with it. And price points in general are not something we should jump on girls about. Maybe that’s why this site does attract a lot of “street girls”. I saw an ad the other day where the price was $60 plus a pack of Newport’s. Lol. That kind of girl isn’t for me or probably a lot of guys. Variety is good.

I agree with most of what you said here except for blasting girls and calling them out for “overpriced GPS, requiring deposits”. One guys “overpriced” is another guys comfort level.
Now I agree I wouldnt see someone like Dreamgirl. She has a great body and her price is fine for me but she demands a deposit and real world info. That’s not happening with me, but others may be fine with it. And price points in general are not something we should jump on girls about. Maybe that’s why this site does attract a lot of “street girls”. I saw an ad the other day where the price was $60 plus a pack of Newport’s. Lol. That kind of girl isn’t for me or probably a lot of guys. Variety is good. Originally Posted by Charley3

Don't call the $60 price and Newports girl "street". BerryBerry and PensFan might be offended by that....

Whether or not you or any guy here would or would not book with Dreamgirl because of her "screening" and "deposit" requirements- she is Unlikely to be a Risk of seeing BCD like (yep) a lot of the Listcrawler and EscortBabylon and current-era CL and BP-type site girls....

Simply put- if a provider has been around for years and has any (any) sort of History in PGH, and everyone Knows who she is, then she is NOT a risk to see. Can't say the same with many of the "unknowns" of Listcrawler who are reviewed here. I'd bet 90% or close to all the ex-Indys providers who are on Tryst are NOT risks to see. Can we say the same for most of the girls reviewed in the PGH review section? If PensFan or BerryBerry or any other guy is offended by that assessment then it is what it is.....

The difference is girls do this now because they HAVE to do it. The obviously need fast cash for reasons we all know. Not saying some girls weren't like that 20 years ago but more did it to make cash to get thru college or just to supplement their income.

Wrong. I have specified that most Tryst girls with any sort of "history" and "reputation" from Indys are probably not "unpredictable" variables like many of the (yep) "street" girls of Listcrawler and all the other current-era CL and BP type site providers who (yep) are reviewed on Eccie. If they were on Indys and they have any sort of "history" and "reputation" from Indys then most likely those ex-Indys Tryst girls are safe to see....

Let's face it, most Eccie PGH reviews ARE of "street" girls. Scroll down the first page and then the second and then the third page of public reviews. Mostly new and (yep) Unknown girls advertising on (yep) current-era CL and BP type sites like Listcrawler. And then actually read the reviews of the guys. Yes, most of the reviews of Listcrawler-type girls are "erratic" (my parentheses) and "unpredictable" (my parentheses) to put it mildly. CL and BP type girls of yesteryear now advertising on CL and BP type (yep) "street" sites of the current era. Read the reviews of the guys. Just like the old CL and BP type girls. And the ex-Indys Tryst girls at least you know you probably Won't be Robbed or Killed....

SA girls are a broad, varied Mix of the same Listcrawler-type girls as Eccie, "kept women" who actually want to see just one (1) guy, many local college girls who are "newbie" to the hobby, and many orthodox providers just like all the historic providers of ASPD and Indys. Sure, there are "street" girls on SA, and a hell of a lot of college girls and traditional, orthodox providers. And the Tryst girls are easy to ID on SA because they often post their same photo's on both sites....

Read all the reviews in the PGH reviews section of Eccie. Most of those reviews ARE of (yep) "street" girls who are Unpredictable and Erratic to put it mildly. And actually the Tryst girls who used to be on Indys tend to get the Best reviews on Eccie. So damn right, there ARE a hell of a lot of "street" girls reviewed on Eccie. And a much smaller number of ex-Indys Tryst girls. And many SA guy players will say they won't review SA girls on this site because SA girls don't want ANYTHING to do with a "hobby" site like this. If they specify they want reviews then review them. If they don't even know about "hobby" sites then guys should Not assume any SA girl wants to be "publicly" reviewed.....

I don't mind clarifying and I don't care what any guy here thinks about it: there ARE a hell of a lot of "street" girls reviewed on this site. The PGH review section reads like the old ASPD CL and BP-type site reviewed providers of yesteryear. Don't take my word for it. Read the reviews on the first and second and third page of PGH reviews. Damn right- a whole lot of Listcrawler and (yep) "street" girls with Occasional reviews of ex Indys Tryst girls and also the Occassional review of SA girls and many of those turn into "Don't post her number here!" snafus. So Damn....Right there ARE a lot of "street" girls reviewed on this site.... Originally Posted by tolstoy

There you go again. You just can't quit denigrating all these women.

You were previously exposed as a fraud, liar and a misogynist. Now you are trying to lie and say you weren't calling all of them "street girls". Meanwhile there are multiple posts here where you did.

Amazing.

Putting “street” in quotations doesn’t make it less demeaning.

Doubling down on an offending statement is a sure sign of a sociopath or a narcissist, or both.

I really find your attitude to be condescending and rude. Originally Posted by pensfan123456

Maybe someone can explain to me why calling a provider a "street girl" is insulting and offensive while calling her a "hoodrat" is funny and endearing?

And then let's move on to another weighty topic... like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin!

I agree with most of what you said here except for blasting girls and calling them out for “overpriced GPS, requiring deposits”. One guys “overpriced” is another guys comfort level.
Now I agree I wouldnt see someone like Dreamgirl. She has a great body and her price is fine for me but she demands a deposit and real world info. That’s not happening with me, but others may be fine with it. And price points in general are not something we should jump on girls about. Maybe that’s why this site does attract a lot of “street girls”. I saw an ad the other day where the price was $60 plus a pack of Newport’s. Lol. That kind of girl isn’t for me or probably a lot of guys. Variety is good. Originally Posted by Charley3

Well Charley, to be fair - read the last part of the sentence I wrote:

I never said certain girls did not deserve blasted and called out for either overpriced GPS, requiring deposits, having dangerous other hobbies, not being safe or who knows what else based on what is important to you.

Not everyone here is the same or looking for the same thing. So one guys overpriced GPS is fine for another guy. It doesn't make it wrong for someone who thinks charging a certain amount is overpriced for stating so. Each person is entitled to their own opinion on pricing

Variety is indeed good - which is what I have been saying throughout this thread about the reviews here. Candid and covering the wide spectrum of experiences

Whether or not you or any guy here would or would not book with Dreamgirl because of her "screening" and "deposit" requirements- she is Unlikely to be a Risk of seeing BCD like (yep) a lot of the Listcrawler and EscortBabylon and current-era CL and BP-type site girls....
Originally Posted by tolstoy

Well of course there were posted reports of Dreamgirl extorting hobbyists. Which I think many guys would consider to be a risk.

Well of course there were posted reports of Dreamgirl extorting hobbyists. Which I think many guys would consider to be a risk. Originally Posted by berryberry

And giving real world info is risky even if you trust the girl. Just not a risk I would take.