Who is more of a BRAGGART - Lucas or Trump??"Haha. I don't claim I know everything like Trump does. I just know what I know and in previous threads, I was making ignorant stubborn statements about Covid because I didn't know what I was talking about like the people who are still making ignorant statements about it because they still don't know what they are talking about. I'm man enough to admit I was wrong and will not defend me being stupid about that fact to save face.
... Hmmmm... rather close call...
#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
The Social Credit System is a national credit rating and blacklist being developed by the government of the People's Republic of China.A vaccine mandate and special privileges for those who have proof of vaccination and blacklisting those who do not is creating a social credit system, like what you see in China.
You apparently don't know what a social credit system is. I'm going to assume you're trolling to get a rise out of me, but just in case, I will briefly explain.... That's better... Honest discussion
You said you want people who have proof of vaccination to have privileges over those who don't. That's a social credit system.
That's what you support. Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong
Good comeback, but whether I collect welfare or not has nothing to do with the social credit system currently being implemented in the United States. Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDongCompanies want their employees vaccinated because of how much it cost them insurance wise when they get Covid and hospitalized.
I missed the post where you linked this national credit system...could you please repost it. Originally Posted by WTFVaccine passports and IDs are themselves a social credit system, because they blacklist those who do not have the passport or ID and grant social privileges to those that do. It functions the same as a social credit system and creates a social caste, which is what you and many others support.
Companies want their employees vaccinated because of how much it cost them insurance wise when they get Covid and hospitalized. Originally Posted by WTFYou have to pay for insurance regardless of whether you get sick or not. I don't think actually using the insurance once you are sick increases it's cost. Am I not understanding what insurance is?
Tiny - from your quoted article -Oeb, I had thought that natural infection was superior to the vaccines, in providing immunity. That was based on what we've been reading about Israel. But after reading the CDC advice I'm not so sure. I wonder if your level of immunity from infection may depend on how severe the disease was? For example, would people who had mild COVID or an asymptomatic infection have less protection? I really have no idea. But my doctor told me he'd gotten, in his words, "100 micrograms of mRNA" (Moderna) in each of his COVID injections, and he was sick for a couple of days afterwards each time. He said that was good, it meant the vaccine was working and stimulating immune response. So maybe the same principle works for infections -- if you get more than a mild case, maybe you're better protected.
Thank you for teh contribution
- The body of evidence for infection-induced immunity is more limited than that for vaccine-induced immunity in terms of the quality of evidence (e.g., probable bias towards symptomatic or medically-attended infections) and types of studies (e.g., observational cohort studies, mostly retrospective versus a mix of randomized controlled trials, case-control studies, and cohort studies for vaccine-induced immunity). There are insufficient data to extend the findings related to infection-induced immunity at this time to persons with very mild or asymptomatic infection or children.
- Substantial immunologic evidence and a growing body of epidemiologic evidence indicate that vaccination after infection significantly enhances protection and further reduces risk of reinfection, which lays the foundation for CDC recommendations.
Information to add to my decision process. Originally Posted by oeb11
