Bringing Landry Jones and Barkley into the mix is a joke at this point...... one has nothing to do with the other...... bad QB class after one of the best ones in years...... it happens.... how many WRs, DB's went in the first round this year as opposed to last? Comparing one to the other directly is ludicrous......
Gnad is right... pocket passers will never go out of "style" if you will..... accuracy will ALWAYS trump mobility at the highest level.... getting the ball into playmakers hands in the open field is the priority.... it's far easier to replace WRs, TEs and RBs upon injuries than QBs..... constant and consistant hits on these smaller guys at the NFL level WILL lead shorter career spans, and less games per season. Neither of which are acceptable in the eyes of GMs and coaches.... you don't take your high end sports cars off roading..... same concept here..... outside of the pocket these investments are at a much higher risk. You Can't win games for your team while in the training room or under the knife. Cam gets away with it for now being a huge mammal and being young. Vick did it for his first few years by being faster than everyone on the field.... and he's bigger and faster than the guys you are referring to Don..... guess how many years he played in all 16games in the 11 he's been in the NFL? Once. How many times has Brady, Flacco, and the Manning's? I think between just those 4 off the top of my head they have 2 seasons where they did not play in all 16 (if I'm not mistaken)....
Originally Posted by Jusanotherdude
Then look at last years's class and compare it to last year's. Weeden was the only straight pocket passer to start, he didn't do well, Gabbert was the main guy the year before that. Ponder and Dalton, we still don't really know what to make of them. And next year's class, I'm not sure how many QB's you have to list before you get into a straight pocket passer.
This point you are making that pocket passers will always be in the league is not being disputed. The argument is that there are going to be mobile QBs who can run and throw just as accurate as the straight pocket passer, you are essentially getting the same type of player, with the only exception being that one can run, and the other cannot. After Brady and Manning are gone, Kaep and Rodgers are going to be the most accurate passers in the league. Teams are going to want to find guys like them, they can run and throw, they're not one dimensional. They can do both, the skill level at that position has risen exponentially.
And I don't buy that these guys are just going to get injured. What happened to Vick and Griffin happened to them because they were careless with their actions. Guys like Luck, Kaep, and Wilson had no problem staying healthy because they knew when to give themselves up and stay safe, it can and will be learned by the future QBs that come in.
And if they do get injured, there will be more depth at that position, guys like Dennis Dixon will be getting future roles as back-ups as they will get more opportunity.
And if there happens to be a guy coming in that has no mobility but has an extremely high IQ and good mechanics, I'm sure there will be a spot for him as a starter. If you are talking about the next Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, sure, no problem. But more than likely you will be getting a Phillip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Sanchez, Schaub type of guy, and I don't see teams willing to risk getting one of these guys when they can either have someone who can throw just as good as them, with the same IQ, but has mobility. Doesn't even have to be Cam or Griffin mobility. A guy with Locker's or Tannehill's mobility is just as good, and will be deemed as an upgrade.
And I know the argument is that there are not enough guys like that for every team to have one, but within 3-4 years, there will be
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