Ladies At What Point Are You Creeped Out

For me I take volume into equation, rep also, and that determines what activities I will partake in. Let's face it with a condom on risk is real low.

how is it bad logic? you are making this up as you go to fit your needs, the way I see it

how is seeing the same guy 10 times in a year count as 10 different guys??
and how do you know he is not just seeing the same girl over and over?? you dont, so quit making things up to validate your POV

either explain your POV better or dont insult my POV just because you dont agree, how about a simple " I do not agree"

how is seeing the same guy 10 times in a year count as 10 different times??
and how do you know he is not just seeing the same girl over and over?? you dont, so quit making things up to validate your POV Originally Posted by RALPHEY BOY

My response here in not meant to insult your point of view, but you simply don't know if he's seeing 3 other providers in between seeing her! That's the whole problem in the whole scenario , you don't know either way !

I don't know how to spell it out for you if your going to take a close minded approach. It sounds like you read the first sentence and then replied. What I said is yes she may have regulars but put all the different guys together and you still going to get more then even the busiest hobbyist see. How many ladies do you see a year? I'm talking different ladies. Now how many different guys are they seeing a year? If she see's 10 regulars a month that's 10 different guys plus how ever many new guys she see's. Based on your logic there is 0% risk for a regular and that's just not the case. Let's say he see's her and he has 2 other regulars he see's. that mean's he see's 3 ladies a month and she see's 10 guys (regular or not) Who's the higher risk????

My point here is that even the lowest volume provider see's more guys a month (different guys) then the highest volume guy sees in a month.


Now when I turn it around, I don't like to see high volume providers also. Unless she is super hot and reviews are super hot I tend to stick to lower volume providers myself.

I never said there was 0% risk, I simply said if one guys sees one and one girl only 10 times a year that does not constitute 10 different guys she has seen nor 10 different girls he as seen

I agree that this is SPECLATORS SPECULATING ABOUT SPECULATION...

Rockerrick, Reya, Homer, Ralphey Boy (with or without blonde wig),

When a provider or a hobbyist make love, each is exposed to all the partners they had. We all are at risk here and we all take risk every day, knowing fully well that their is no 100% protection.

Very interesting posts all.

I have (checks) 7 OKs on P411, dating from 2007.

It's safe to say I have been hobbying before 2007.
It's safe to say I have seen more than 7 women since 2007.

I usually try to get 1 or 2 OKs a year, just so that someone checking would see that I am an active hobbyist and have providers they can contact regarding me. (and no, being a moderator doesn't mean you are verification free - it was actually easier for me to line up dates *before* I was a mod!) I don't feel the need to have every lady I see check off a box attesting to that.

It's safe to say that I have an active sex life.
It's safe to say that using protection, both for me and my partner, is an ironclad *requirement*.

If you're creeped out by someone with 50 P411 OKs, bear in mind that I could probably have gotten 50 P411 OKs were I sufficiently motivated to over the past few years, and if I could have, since I'm fairly certain I am fairly inactive compared to most, that almost every other active hobbyist could as well.

Something to ponder.

(oh and also Reya is the bomb diggity. You can ponder that too.)

I started thread just because of the varied responses. I have asked this question of most providers that I've seen. Have got responses from 3-5 okays to collect as many as you can. I remember just a couple months ago there was a guy on p411 who had just hit 400. Now somebody is certainly seeing him . I still have a okay from the lady who invited me on even though she doesn't provide anymore. Once and a while the account is active. So I guess you never know.

I agree with Reya which I have never met

Rockerrick, Reya, Homer, Ralphey Boy (with or without blonde wig),

When a provider or a hobbyist make love, each is exposed to all the partners they had. We all are at risk here and we all take risk every day, knowing fully well that their is no 100% protection. Originally Posted by BADBOYFU

Exactly, that was the point I was making. Regular or not, the ladies have more contact with opposite sex then the males do. And like rod put it, no one knows how many regs a lady or guy has and so on and so on and so on...........If a guy only see one lady and a lady on see's on guy, that's not hobbying, that's dating and not what we are discussing here.

The more okays the merrier.

Lol. Definitely some interesting responses.

Particularly Homer13, who is almost always completely full of sh...ining examples of diversity of opinion in this hobby. Every time I read yet another post where he's stating I'm not his type, he doesn't like my photos or I'm not "worth 3 bills" I always breathe a sigh of relief because judging by his attitude towards a LOT of females in his posts here he is DEFINITELY not my type either.

Ralphey...you're giving me ideas- you can be goldilocks and I'll be one of the bears that finds you eating my porridge so I tackle you and we have to fight over it and our clothes just happen to get torn off in the struggle. Then we can test out the sofa, the floor and the bed to find out which one is juuuust right.

Vyt- You are still my internet boyfriend. <3

I remember when I first started out and had only seen a couple of girls, several of the girls (very well respected) talked trash about guys that hobbied often. One said when she got a P411 request from a guy with 20 OKs, she was grossed out. Her comment stuck with me and I didn't request OKs from a lot of girls, but sometimes they just give them without me requesting it, and I haven't deleted any yet. So I'm one of those "gross" guys with around 30 OKs..

I have to admit that I see Reya's point. Just like a lot of guys would probably think twice if we saw 100 reviews for a girl, I'm sure a high P411 OK count can have the same effect. Even though we all know what's going on, we don't want to think about it.

I don't find that guys with a lot of okays to be hunting for alphabet soup or anything of the type.

Honestly, the guys who have 5 okays have probably been with more than 5 providers.

For me, the more okays the better. I do not care one shred how many women you have slept with - I only care that you treated them with respect, you were clean and safe with them, and you didn't rip them off. That's what okays are FOR. I can learn about you, your preferences, your desires in person.

Just like a lot of guys would probably think twice if we saw 100 reviews for a girl

I disagree, some of the most successful providers have TONS of reviews. They're amazing advertising/web traffic. I can always look at my web stats and tell you exactly what date I got new reviews. That day and 3-4 after my traffic is through the roof. My SSL traffic usually doubles (more people filling out the reservation form).

Now maybe if it was 100 reviews in 5 or 6 months, but 100 reviews over 3-4 years is nothing. I can name providers here and in Canada that I can type in TBD or TER and see at LEAST 100 reviews on either site. I have something like 57 at the moment and I've never had negative effects from them, only compliments on them.

Lol.

Ralphey...you're giving me ideas- you can be goldilocks and I'll be one of the bears that finds you eating my porridge so I tackle you and we have to fight over it and our clothes just happen to get torn off in the struggle. Then we can test out the sofa, the floor and the bed to find out which one is juuuust right.
Originally Posted by Reya Sunshine

DEAL!!

and since you only work weekends, that works out even better for me
and not Papa Bear, or Baby Bear, can you be Momma Bear?