OBAMA'S WAR ON MIDDLE CLASS CONTINUES.....

Talk about a RWWipe reach around?

I especially enjoyed rio's continued shitting on all things education. Easy there, fella, you DONT have to go to school for free. You can continue your education right here on ECCIE. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

When will you acknowledge you're the DOTY 2015. People in glass houses and such........

No president can tell a college how much to charge but a president could freeze student loan interest (since Obama took them off the hands of private lenders) e. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You do understand that those so called private lenders had those loans guaranteed by the government? So if say you got a loan and decided not to pay back the private lender , the government paid it off and then had to go after you. That is called a racket. Public loss..Private profits. So wtf was done was a step better than before.

Pretty sound ideas, JDIdiot, but frankly, at first glance, this post looked like:

bla, bla, bla, bla, two ASSES. Can you imagine trying to pay off $30,000 a year in debt when you're just starting out?

Actually, if she has two asses, she should have no problem at all!

No president can tell a college how much to charge but a president could freeze student loan interest (since Obama took them off the hands of private lenders) at maybe 2%. That he could do by executive order and actually accomplish something inside of just having something to play politics with. Another thing, he could by executive order increase the payoff period to 20 years instead of 10. I know a young woman who is $300,000 in debt getting her PhD (plus two BAs, and two ASs.) Can you imagine trying to pay off $30,000 a year in debt when you're just starting out?

Of course we're just talking because Obama doesn't want to solve problems, he just wants a weapon to use against his opponents....the American people. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

If she is pretty, she just has to fuck a thousand guys at 300 each, and she will be out of debt.
It's the American way!

She is very pretty, large breasts, dark hair, dark complexion like she is biracial or American Indian, and about 5'9" tall. Very smart too with degrees in chemistry, math, Russian language, and East European studies. I only wish....

Back to the topic at hand; apparently someone talked Obama out of his taxation of 529 plans. Word is it was Nancy Pelosi of all people.

Excellent speech, but in searching for the original, it turns out that the author is a columnist named Bob Lonsberry. The website giving credit to Lou Holtz may not be aware that Holtz was using Lonsberry's words. ijs
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

Holtz was cheating all along. Maybe we don't need Bellichek's take after all.

His jihad against white middle class continues. POS ! Originally Posted by rioseco

If you say that you have no idea what the "middle class" is today. Here is a great article that explains what has happened to the so called "middle-class" over the last 50 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/bu...mid=tw-nytimes

Basically the middle class has been shrinking for over 50 years. Read up.

BL; your own article offers up the following reason for the "shrinking" middle class.......

"The middle class has shrunk consistently over the past half-century. Until 2000, the reason was primarily because more Americans moved up the income ladder. But since then, the reason has shifted: There is a greater share of households on the lower rungs of the economic ladder."

Got that? Only since 2000 has the middle class declined for economic reasons. That said, Obama's policies have accelerated the economic woes of the American middle class.

And the massive immigration (legal and illegal) hasn't helped the American middle class; in fact it has been detrimental and instrumental in keeping their wages and household income depressed!!!!

If you say that you have no idea what the "middle class" is today. Here is a great article that explains what has happened to the so called "middle-class" over the last 50 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/bu...mid=tw-nytimes

Basically the middle class has been shrinking for over 50 years. Read up. Originally Posted by BigLouie

You missed the whole point of the article. The people populating what is considered the "middle class" is entirely different from what it was 50 years ago. This from the article:

"In the late 1960s, more than half of the households in the United States were squarely in the middle, earning, in today’s dollars, $35,000 to $100,000 a year. Few people noticed or cared as the size of that group began to fall, because the shift was primarily caused by more Americans climbing the economic ladder into upper-income brackets."

"The traditional image of a married couple with children at home, a gap increasingly filled by the elderly.... the fastest-growing component of the new middle class has been households headed by people 65 and older."

So really the old notion of middle class being a married couple with children is no longer true, it's now people 65 and older.

Lets ask Joe Biden what he thinks...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H41EH89j8i8

"the last six years have been very, very hard for this country"

You missed the whole point of the article. The people populating what is considered the "middle class" is entirely different from what it was 50 years ago. This from the article:

"In the late 1960s, more than half of the households in the United States were squarely in the middle, earning, in today’s dollars, $35,000 to $100,000 a year. Few people noticed or cared as the size of that group began to fall, because the shift was primarily caused by more Americans climbing the economic ladder into upper-income brackets."

"The traditional image of a married couple with children at home, a gap increasingly filled by the elderly.... the fastest-growing component of the new middle class has been households headed by people 65 and older."

So really the old notion of middle class being a married couple with children is no longer true, it's now people 65 and older. Originally Posted by BigLouie

BL, if America is not evil, the Left is out of business...

The cost of education is way to high, you got schools paying coaches and AD's in the millions of dollars for their services. Seriously if Michigan can afford to pay Harbough 10 mil then they could afford to lower the cost of attending. In addition just like in the government or Auto industry, education has become top heavy in overpaid administators. While I am not a supporter of many of Obama's idea's I do agree that something has to be done about the cost of education. Whoever said that giving away education cheapens the efforts of those who worked for it is off base, using your logic then a persons whose education was paid for by their parents or through an educational plan (529) would also cheapen the efforts. It is ignorant to believe that placing a new graduate under the burden of 100,000 dollars worth of education loans is anything but a drag on the fabric of this nation.

Sadly College and universities are no longer about education, they are now about making money.

What is this bullshit about a free education? If a free education is so bad than rich kids should have to work for their degree! Hell Elementary , Junior and High School you should be made to work! Lol you boys are something else.. Originally Posted by WTF

So... the "free education" the government pays for through grade school and high school.. How's that working out again? How is America stacking up against other countries on the education of our children? Tell us again how ADDING 2 more years free in Community College will "solve" the problem?

You confirm my OP.

Fewer families are moving up out of the middle class, with many middle class families slipping backward into the lower class; while even fewer families are moving out of the lower class, all the while, the lower class totals are exploding because of illegal/legal immigration and failed economic policies. As stated in the NYT article, this trend only began in 2000.

Keep denying that bigger government, more regulations, more taxes, massive illegal/legal immigration, and a no growth economy are not helping the middle class (no matter how you define it).

As this data shows, Obama's policies have failed the middle class.

You missed the whole point of the article. The people populating what is considered the "middle class" is entirely different from what it was 50 years ago. This from the article:

"In the late 1960s, more than half of the households in the United States were squarely in the middle, earning, in today’s dollars, $35,000 to $100,000 a year. Few people noticed or cared as the size of that group began to fall, because the shift was primarily caused by more Americans climbing the economic ladder into upper-income brackets."

"The traditional image of a married couple with children at home, a gap increasingly filled by the elderly.... the fastest-growing component of the new middle class has been households headed by people 65 and older."

So really the old notion of middle class being a married couple with children is no longer true, it's now people 65 and older. Originally Posted by BigLouie