IRS SCANDAL WIDENS: MORE THAN 500 GROUPS TARGETED BY OBAMA IRS

which spaceship would you like your name on, because that is where your mind is

Lay and Skilling were oblivious. How did it work out for them?

The CEO at the top may not need to know the daily mundane details of day to day operations, true. But when something starts going wrong, the Dept Heads and middle management send the info up the flagpole to the top, meetings are held and decisions are made. The real world is that when there is something even relatively major happening the guy at the top is brought into the loop. And if he's not, or he make the wrong decisions, heads roll....and sometimes its his head.

When all these Departments report up through the chain to the top guy, its ultimately his responsibility. That where the buck stops, and what we are not seeing here in these various cases going on. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

you may as well be talking to a brick wall CC

The WSJ says that the Scandal started at the top and the New York Times reports that top administration people knew about it for well over a year.....

They were hiding the scandal from the voters in the swing states of Florida, Virginia, Colorado, and Ohio............had this scandal been uncovered during the campaign, Obama would NOT have been elected.

The WSJ says that the Scandal started at the top and the New York Times reports that top administration people knew about it for well over a year.....

They were hiding the scandal from the voters in the swing states of Florida, Virginia, Colorado, and Ohio............had this scandal been uncovered during the campaign, Obama would NOT have been elected. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Trendy seems to be saying that even though Wisconsin and America are Trending Obama, "The WSJ" is not!

Ok, I believe I now have a full grasp of Trendy's warped "Trending" conspiracy now!

which spaceship would you like your name on, because that is where your mind is Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

Funny no stones.

the IRS reports to the Treasury, the only link the potus has to the IRS is the reports he gets from the Treasury ... in fact there certain federal laws that keep a potus out of the IRS

and that makes it Obamas IRS

maybe they should change the name on the building Originally Posted by CJ7

No kidding? The President is in charge of the Executive Branch. What Departments fall under that branch?

Executive Departments
Department of Agriculture (USDA)
Department of Commerce (DOC)
Department of Defense (DOD)
Department of Education (ED)
Department of Energy (DOE)
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
Department of Justice (DOJ)
Department of Labor (DOL)
Department of State (DOS)
Department of the Interior (DOI)
Department of the Treasury
Department of Transportation (DOT)
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)

You don't have to like it, but Obama is at the top of the flowchart.

you may as well be talking to a brick wall CC Originally Posted by gary5912

I know

No kidding? The President is in charge of the Executive Branch. What Departments fall under that branch?

Executive Departments
Department of Agriculture (USDA)
Department of Commerce (DOC)
Department of Defense (DOD)
Department of Education (ED)
Department of Energy (DOE)
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
Department of Justice (DOJ)
Department of Labor (DOL)
Department of State (DOS)
Department of the Interior (DOI)
Department of the Treasury
Department of Transportation (DOT)
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)

You don't have to like it, but Obama is at the top of the flowchart. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Ok CC, I think I understand your (twisted) logic now. If, in all of the fifteen or so departments listed above (which each have thousands of employees) there happens to be a problem, then Obama should be held solely accountable for that department's failure. However, if they are not experiencing a problem, I can't recall you ever having said that Obama should be given full credit for that department's success.

Thus, Obama should only be held solely accountable if there is a problem. On the other hand if the department(s) are meeting all of their goals, you do not believe Obama should be given any accolades for a job well done. You, along with COG, JD, Whirly, IIFFY, Cpt J, et al, seem to blend in quite well with your surroundings!

Thanks for sharing your twisted logic with us!

Carry on!!!!!!!

Republicans are only credited with a success a failure they find a Scooter Libby.