Chinese virologist posts report claiming COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab

Lock and load, WSND’s!

Out of the noses of moles.

It will be interesting to hear what the researcher has to say - how factual remains to be determined.

American labs can sequence DNA - and determine the validy of the accusations.



Thanks for a shoutout from the burrow Starnose. Originally Posted by oeb11

At least yous don’t know if it’s factual, but chose to repeats it, eh?

Get some help. WSNDs

You mean like; What would a virologist from the Wuhan lab really know about viruses cooked up in the Wuhan lab? Is that what you are thinking? You call that thinking? Egads!

Yes Zenote is certainly a reputable source to present Medical Research to ... NOT.

Conventionally research / papers and such are presented through the New England Journal of Medicine,Lancet,etc. Not Zenote.

The journals I listed vet the material presented to them.They won't just publish anything.A paper of this magnitude would be a huge deal.If legitimate it would garner notice and play in real scientific journals. Originally Posted by sportfisherman

At least yous don’t know if it’s factual, but chose to repeats it, eh?

Get some help. WSNDs Originally Posted by HoeHummer

He learned that little trick from LexusLoser.

this lady will be on Tucker Carlson's show tonight. won't see her on CNN or MSDNC ..

in fact they will immediately begin reports branding her as a crackpot and labeling this a "conspiracy theory"


Chinese virologist posts report claiming COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab

https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/chines...-in-wuhan-lab/


A Chinese virologist who has alleged that COVID-19 was human-made in a lab in China released a report on Monday that she says backs up her explosive claim.


Dr. Li-Meng Yan, a former researcher at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, posted a paper on the the open-access repository website Zenote, that she claims shows how SARS-CoV-2 could be “conveniently created” in a laboratory setting in six months.


The paper, co-authored with two others, is titled “Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route.”


It claims to note how “SARS-CoV-2 shows biological characteristics that are inconsistent with a naturally occurring, zoonotic virus.”


Other scientists out of California have previously published a journal article mapping out the virus’ genetic sequence which they say proves “SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”


Yan’s paper came after an interview she gave on the British talk show “Loose Women,” on Friday in which she repeated her claims that the coronavirus “comes from the lab — the lab in Wuhan and the lab is controlled by China’s government.”


She insisted that widespread reports that the virus originated last year from a wet market in Wuhan are “a smoke screen.”


“The first thing is the [meat] market in Wuhan … is a smoke screen and this virus is not from nature,” Yan claimed, explaining that she got “her intelligence from the CDC in China, from the local doctors.”


The virologist — who claims she did some of the earliest research into COVID-19 last year — has previously accused Beijing of lying about when it learned of the killer bug and engaging in an extensive cover-up of her work.


In April, Yan reportedly fled Hong Kong and escaped to America to raise awareness about the pandemic. She is said to have been hiding over fear for her safety.


Yan had said her former supervisors at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, a reference laboratory for the World Health Organization, silenced her when she sounded the alarm about human-to-human transmission in December last year.


She also claimed that before she fled China, her information was wiped from government databases


The lab has denied that Yan ever “conducted any research on human-to-human transmission” and said her assertions have “no scientific basis.”


Yuan Zhiming, director of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, has previously denied claims that the bug accidentally spread from his facility. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

That's probably all true. The Liberals though, they probably think a Bat took a shit in China over a Wet Market and it contaminated some food and that's how it spread over the entire world in a few months, lol.

You mean like; What would a virologist from the Wuhan lab really know about viruses cooked up in the Wuhan lab? Is that what you are thinking? You call that thinking? Egads! Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

from the NY Post story this woman did not work directly at the Wuhan Virology lab, rather at Hong Kong School of Public Health. an academic/teaching post it appears. she is however a MD and PhD and would have been able to access internal Chinese data that initially was being researched. if she saw data that it was engineered and can show it then it should able to be confirmed. her paper is co-written by three other PhD's so it is not just her expressing this opinion.

He learned that little trick from LexusLoser. Originally Posted by Lapdog

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Something, something, hump, something, anime, something, something. Originally Posted by Lapdog

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Let it go, Weeaboo. Originally Posted by Lapdog

thank you valued poster

the GOAT is opening with a recap of the far leftist media's defense of China. you recall .. racist, xenophobic. and of course the fact that one of the Doctors who sounded the alarm early on has disappeared .. in typical totalitarian fashion.

Yes Zenote is certainly a reputable source to present Medical Research to ... NOT.

Conventionally research / papers and such are presented through the New England Journal of Medicine,Lancet,etc. Not Zenote.

The journals I listed vet the material presented to them.They won't just publish anything.A paper of this magnitude would be a huge deal.If legitimate it would garner notice and play in real scientific journals. Originally Posted by sportfisherman

Oeb11:

SF - the paper referenced in The post by TWK ( author Yan) was published in Zenodo - Sept 14, 2020 -
https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X2FPn4t7mUl



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• You may find the paper FYI at the Zenodo reference.

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Why use Zenodo?

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Zenobo allows researchers to upload current research to the scientific community - it has 19 Covid communities - and many others in different areas of research. It is not a peer reviewed journal - as are Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine - which is a time consuming process and delays publication of current data the researchers wish to share.

Zenobo is a recognized and utilized method of sharing scientific data in many fields.

CERN has a worldwide respected name.



You are correct - and I quote you - it is " not Zenote" - for which i find no references.



This forum (Zenodo) if for early publication of data to the scientific community - and not designed for those not of the scientific community (such as you). And - i guarantee U are not a molecular biologist.



The paper does make interesting allegations that the Wuhan virus is laboratory manufactured.
Please read the abstract herein-

Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route

Yan, Li-Meng; Kang, Shu; Guan, Jie; Hu, Shanchang
The COVID-19 pandemic caused by the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 has led to over 910,000 deaths worldwide and unprecedented decimation of the global economy. Despite its tremendous impact, the origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained mysterious and controversial. The natural origin theory, although widely accepted, lacks substantial support. The alternative theory that the virus may have come from a research laboratory is, however, strictly censored on peer-reviewed scientific journals. Nonetheless, SARS-CoV-2 shows biological characteristics that are inconsistent with a naturally occurring, zoonotic virus. In this report, we describe the genomic, structural, medical, and literature evidence, which, when considered together, strongly contradicts the natural origin theory. The evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 should be a laboratory product created by using bat coronaviruses ZC45 and/or ZXC21 as a template and/or backbone. Building upon the evidence, we further postulate a synthetic route for SARS-CoV-2, demonstrating that the laboratory-creation of this coronavirus is convenient and can be accomplished in approximately six months. Our work emphasizes the need for an independent investigation into the relevant research laboratories. It also argues for a critical look into certain recently published data, which, albeit problematic, was used to support and claim a natural origin of SARS-CoV-2. From a public health perspective, these actions are necessary as knowledge of the origin of SARS-CoV-2 and of how the virus entered the human population are of pivotal importance in the fundamental control of the COVID-19 pandemic as well as in preventing similar, future pandemics.


To reference the Zenobo forum as "not legitimate" exposes your own DPST ignorance of even the forum name - an abject failure to check your facts (C/W the rest of the DPST LSM you parrot) and would make you a scientific laughingstock - if you were a scientist with any credentials - which U R NOT!


The thrust of the article is that research on laboratory origin of the Wuhan virus is 'censored' by peer review journals , and further research is necessary. Does 'censorship" of research of a different than 'mainstream' opinion exist in peer review journals - in someways related to the peer review process - it can effectively exist - There is no Superior peer review agency that coordinates what opinions are 'acceptable' in science - and the peer review process can be lengthy - a problem when current data to address the pandemic is critical. Scientists can be reluctant to change opinions - until overwhelming evidence exists. Witness the Nobel prize given Australian GI doctors ;In 2005, the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine to Marshall and Robin Warren, his long-time collaborator, "for their discovery of the bacterium Helicobacter pylori and its role in gastritis and peptic ulcer disease" A finding that was very controversial to doctors managing peptic ulcer disease - which was deemed primarily a surgical problem - until the discovery was accepted - and medical management is now the mainstay of treatment.


Zenodo serves a critical function to share very current data - that peer view journals cannot do by the nature of their peer review process.



Plus - the major prestigious journals such a NEJM and Lancet are limited in what they can publish - and the volume of research grows exponentially - due to the number of world wide research efforts, and pressure to 'Publish or perish" in academic careers.

if, per your 'allusion' - the only legitimate research was published only in the few 'prestigious journals" you alluded to - it would stifle worldwide research publication.

There are new journals on new field emerging yearly - to cope with new fields of research endeavor - and publish new knowledge.



how much attention does this paper and its authors deserve - as much as the scientific community will give them. And Yes, Virginia - there are active research efforts on the origin of the wuhan virus underway. Time and research will sort out the issue of the origin of the wuhan virus.



so - SF - please take your ignorant post of the subject - and print it for tacking to your front door - of your latrine. Which is where your opinion belongs.



Me - I had an academic career - i am published in the NEJM, and more than 100 peer reviewed publications in recognized journals , and was a peer reviewer for a major specialty journal.

I know whereof i speak /write on this topic-

And - You do NOT!


i have likely wasted my time writing this rebuttal of your ignorance.

Still - It feels good to point out DPST ignorance and propaganda - and the usual refusal to check facts or references. It would be comical to observe the DPST's - if it were not so tragic that you believe in your own propaganda, lies, and refusal to verify factual information in favor of your own marxist, racist narrative!.


Thank U - for the opportunity to debunk your propaganda and ignorance - SF!

. Originally Posted by matchingmole

getting jumpy are you?



oh btw, looks like one of your packs is out of order.

getting jumpy are you?



oh btw, looks like one of your packs is out of order. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

that's what he gets for cloning his pac's. replication failure.


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