Why do providers do this?

Attach an image of a couple of Benjamins to your PM. That gets their attention.

Like kinda the same way when we replay to a PM and he goes MIA . th

Nobody likes to go through the trouble of writing a thoughtful email and then not getting a response. It doesn't feel great. But it happens to us all.. I suspect most times it is not that the person is blowing anyone off or doesn't want to respond or isn't professional - its just that life can get really really really busy. I think a lot of people (including myself) can get buried in work or other activities and fall behind in emails/have messages slip through the cracks.



As EJ DFW wisely said, "Just appreciate the ones that actually respond" Originally Posted by nickcu

Considering the ridiculous number of choices that Dallas guys have, heck they're doing us a favor by not responding to our PM. By self eliminating themselves from our list of options, they make it easier for the guy to choose which lady to meet. Originally Posted by VeryClean

Like kinda the same way when we replay to a PM and he goes MIA . th Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF

I can appreciate from a woman's perspective that there are some assholes and time-wasters when providers do respond, however, let's just keep it real:

This is a buyer's market, still customer service (albeit a different kind) and some women do not fully appreciate that you are simultaneously competing with my hand, my porn collection, PornHub, and other ladies for my desire to give a donation for "time spent amongst consenting adults."


For me, because this is my view, I place an extraordinary amount of value on communication and TCB, because there's more women for me to potentially see than the time I wish to wait outside of a reasonable amount for you to respond to my messages, be them PMs or texts, or worse yet, give me the impression that this is nothing more than a transaction for you when we do talk.


Some providers here more or less want you to BEG them to contribute to their charity in terms of how hard you have to communicate / wait / deal with whatever they may have going on, to that I say GTFOH.


I'm only doing this because I want to, not out of necessity, so if I feel that my donation wouldn't be to a good cause, I move on swiftly.




Cue the WKs and trolls in 5, 4, 3...

Ok, the pic is just a silly joke of course! No clients be offended please.

But the times that I have overlooked a very nice, well written PM or email, (one that doesn't say "u available?"; it's been because I've either been getting ready for a client, and then maybe forgot about it, OR I've been taking a 1 or 2 week break. I also actually have a mild little innocuous medical thing where I have to be admitted to the hospital for 4-6 days for fluids and stuff, 3 or 4 times a year maybe. But I don't think it's appropriate to go into all that with my guys, and it's not that big of a deal.

There's no really good place to put that online, but I really just never worked 24/7, and sometimes just opening Eccie and seeing I had messages waiting was just too much. I'd just close it up and turn on the TV for some Adult Swim, Rick & Morty or Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell, or Robot Chicken. Just something funny and relaxing to take a break. And sleep as late as I wanted without having to set an alarm and get up and start getting ready for someone. I would ONLY place ads when I was in full work mode.

I very much valued my clients, and counted on them for support! But I never had an assistant and where could I put I'm taking a few days off? Especially when I never knew exactly when it would start or end. I would HATE missing regulars and good guys from out of town who were flying in on business, but for my mental health and physical health, this was the best job EVER for being able to work when I wanted to, and for closing the laptop and the hobby phone when I wanted to and not worrying about HR calling me into the office on Monday to write me up. It's one of the major perks of this job right?

So guys, please don't take it personal. This is a job we don't have to clock in at 8am and clock out at 5pm. It's a "when you feel like it kind of thing", And yes, sometimes I would answer an inquiry with the truth, "I'm not feeling great right now, maybe another time, ok? I would love to see you, I just can't right now or tomorrow". Some guys would understand and be so wonderful. But many would say "tonight at 10 is the only time I can get away! Please?" And then I'd feel guilty, but what type of man wants a session with a lady who is not into it at that particular time? I always wanted to be 100% for my dates.

There's lots of ladies on Eccie and other sites and lots of guys too. I never wanted to ignore anyone or lose business. And I'd never type a quick "not interested" for a reply. Yes I wanted my favorites and regulars to see ME, but I certainly didn't expect monogamy. .And my regulars and my client friends knew my habits. And I knew my finances and the fact that I would NEVER be ok being high volume anyway, so 3-4 a week worked for me, and even for my times offline. Plus, no matter how old a message was, I would usually answer every one of them when I was working again, and apologize for the delay.

I used to have on my Bio page that I liked persistent men, not sure if I still do. But what I actually meant was, I may not get back to you right away, but if you try a couple more times, I WILL! Trying once and giving up is just not right.

How could I have handled my needed days or weeks off better?
WITHOUT being made to feel guilty or being talked into it. It just seemed best to turn off the electronics sometimes. Suggestions would be helpful.

Ok, the pic is just a silly joke of course! No clients be offended please.

But the times that I have overlooked a very nice, well written PM or email, (one that doesn't say "u available?"; it's been because I've either been getting ready for a client, and then maybe forgot about it, OR I've been taking a 1 or 2 week break. I also actually have a mild little innocuous medical thing where I have to be admitted to the hospital for 4-6 days for fluids and stuff, 3 or 4 times a year maybe. But I don't think it's appropriate to go into all that with my guys, and it's not that big of a deal.

There's no really good place to put that online, but I really just never worked 24/7, and sometimes just opening Eccie and seeing I had messages waiting was just too much. I'd just close it up and turn on the TV for some Adult Swim, Rick & Morty or Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell, or Robot Chicken. Just something funny and relaxing to take a break. And sleep as late as I wanted without having to set an alarm and get up and start getting ready for someone. I would ONLY place ads when I was in full work mode.

I very much valued my clients, and counted on them for support! But I never had an assistant and where could I put I'm taking a few days off? Especially when I never knew exactly when it would start or end. I would HATE missing regulars and good guys from out of town who were flying in on business, but for my mental health and physical health, this was the best job EVER for being able to work when I wanted to, and for closing the laptop and the hobby phone when I wanted to and not worrying about HR calling me into the office on Monday to write me up. It's one of the major perks of this job right?

So guys, please don't take it personal. This is a job we don't have to clock in at 8am and clock out at 5pm. It's a "when you feel like it kind of thing", And yes, sometimes I would answer an inquiry with the truth, "I'm not feeling great right now, maybe another time, ok? I would love to see you, I just can't right now or tomorrow". Some guys would understand and be so wonderful. But many would say "tonight at 10 is the only time I can get away! Please?" And then I'd feel guilty, but what type of man wants a session with a lady who is not into it at that particular time? I always wanted to be 100% for my dates.

There's lots of ladies on Eccie and other sites and lots of guys too. I never wanted to ignore anyone or lose business. And I'd never type a quick "not interested" for a reply. Yes I wanted my favorites and regulars to see ME, but I certainly didn't expect monogamy. .And my regulars and my client friends knew my habits. And I knew my finances and the fact that I would NEVER be ok being high volume anyway, so 3-4 a week worked for me, and even for my times offline. Plus, no matter how old a message was, I would usually answer every one of them when I was working again, and apologize for the delay.

I used to have on my Bio page that I liked persistent men, not sure if I still do. But what I actually meant was, I may not get back to you right away, but if you try a couple more times, I WILL! Trying once and giving up is just not right.

How could I have handled my needed days or weeks off better?
WITHOUT being made to feel guilty or being talked into it. It just seemed best to turn off the electronics sometimes. Suggestions would be helpful. Originally Posted by GingerKatt

You're like the female version of Wile E Coyote. Or is he the male version of you?

Either way, I hope you two never team up together. The long winded essays you both write would get even worse.

You're like the female version of Wile E Coyote. Or is he the male version of you?

Either way, I hope you two never team up together. The long winded essays you both write would get even worse. Originally Posted by slubby

Lol! You are so right. I have been extremely verbose since I became a lady of leisure. I'll try to shorten my wind in any future posts!

Long-winded, yes! But, the day we have a female version of WEC, it will be time to burn the servers

I tend to try and prescreen so that when I do have a window of opportunity it is more of just matching up schedules. Of course that flies in the face of the request for a specific time and date.

GingerKatt, I love that pic! You look so cute with those adorable puppydog eyes and flawless porcelain complexion. Your face is glowing with good health despite you lying in what looks like a hospital bed.

I enjoyed reading your entire post but this sentence of yours resonated with me deeply:

I used to have on my Bio page that I liked persistent men, not sure if I still do. But what I actually meant was, I may not get back to you right away, but if you try a couple more times, I WILL! Trying once and giving up is just not right.

I still stand by my earlier post where I stated that if the provider doesn't respond to the client, she's doing the client a favor by self eliminating herself from his list of options. However, there are exceptions to this rule. ECCIE providers who are so special & exclusive that it's OK to keep respectfully contacting them until they give you a firm YES or NO. These exceptions are the creme de la creme of ECCIE providers both in terms of beauty and performance.

I found out about one such provider back in early February 2019. Her name is Blonde Barbie. After looking at her welcome wagon thread, her ECCIE bio page, and her updates, I realized that I felt a strong physical attraction towards her. Yes, she is your typical 21 year old blonde blue eyed GFE spinner that a lot of ECCIE guys go gaga over...but my attraction towards her was more than that. For one thing, she's obviously very feminine and I love feminine women. Also, I'm very much a face guy and her face pics drove me wild with lust. Doesn't hurt that she has an exceptional body too. For while she has a lean 100 pound spinner body, she also has huge perky natural tits. Both her face and body are truly gifts from God.

So I sent her an ECCIE PM in early February with my name, phone number, references, brief physical description of myself, and ECCIE bio page links of all my references. Everything she needed to screen me. I also wrote that I'm very serious about meeting her and I would like to meet her ASAP.

4 days go by and she doesn't respond to my PM. 4 days is not a lot of time but I'm eager to meet her so I send her a second PM. I reiterate that I'm very serious about meeting her and ask her if she needed more info to screen me.

Now a week has gone by since I sent her the 2nd PM and she still hasn't responded to me. I send her a 3rd PM and tell her that I understand that she's busy. With her looks, she must have a long line of guys waiting to meet her. I also tell her that despite the fact that some time has gone by, I'm still interested.

I wait for yet another full week after sending my 3rd PM and still no reply from her. Now normally I don't allow anyone to treat me this way. I never send more than 2 PMs and if she doesn't respond to my second PM, I forget about her and move on to the next lady. However as I already stated, Blonde Barbie is special.

So a week after sending my 3rd PM, I send her my fourth and final PM. The title of my PM is "Are you going to meet me or not?" Yes a bit rude but I was running out of patience at that point. I ask Blonde Barbie to tell me once and for all if she can meet me or not. I also tell her that if she can't meet me for whatever reason, that's fine but please let me know so I can move on. Don't leave me hanging.

I guess the title of my fourth PM caught her attention because Blonde Barbie replied to me the same day and asked if I'm free on Thursday. I said yes and we met at an upscale Galleria hotel on Thursday February 21st 2019. I had the most amazing time of my life. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous, she's also very friendly, kind, and eager to please. After that session, I scheduled another meeting with her right away and we also started texting each other every day. Just light banter, jokes, and sometimes we would discuss our life problems. She told me that there are a lot of bad guys on ECCIE and that's why she liked me because I'm a good guy. I don't know if she was just trying to flatter me but it made me feel good regardless. While I'm sad that she has now retired and moved away, I'm glad I was able to share some very special moments with her.

So GingerKatt, your advice is spot on! If you find a lady who you know is special, be persistent! Send her a follow up ECCIE PM and even a PM after that if need be! I would have never met Blonde Barbie if I gave up after the first or second PM! Now if she says NO, then respect that and move on but no harm in trying in the beginning.

Providers always ignore my pms, unless it's a warning or an infraction. At that point they always respond. Originally Posted by Admiral Giggle

Maybe you should consider sending respectful and thoughtful PMs.

GingerKatt, I love that pic! You look so cute with those adorable puppydog eyes and flawless porcelain complexion. Your face is glowing with good health despite you lying in what looks like a hospital bed.

I enjoyed reading your entire post but this sentence of yours resonated with me deeply:

I used to have on my Bio page that I liked persistent men, not sure if I still do. But what I actually meant was, I may not get back to you right away, but if you try a couple more times, I WILL! Trying once and giving up is just not right.

I still stand by my earlier post where I stated that if the provider doesn't respond to the client, she's doing the client a favor by self eliminating herself from his list of options. However, there are exceptions to this rule. ECCIE providers who are so special & exclusive that it's OK to keep respectfully contacting them until they give you a firm YES or NO. These exceptions are the creme de la creme of ECCIE providers both in terms of beauty and performance.

I found out about one such provider back in early February 2019. Her name is Blonde Barbie. After looking at her welcome wagon thread, her ECCIE bio page, and her updates, I realized that I felt a strong physical attraction towards her. Yes, she is your typical 21 year old blonde blue eyed GFE spinner that a lot of ECCIE guys go gaga over...but my attraction towards her was more than that. For one thing, she's obviously very feminine and I love feminine women. Also, I'm very much a face guy and her face pics drove me wild with lust. Doesn't hurt that she has an exceptional body too. For while she has a lean 100 pound spinner body, she also has huge perky natural tits. Both her face and body are truly gifts from God.

So I sent her an ECCIE PM in early February with my name, phone number, references, brief physical description of myself, and ECCIE bio page links of all my references. Everything she needed to screen me. I also wrote that I'm very serious about meeting her and I would like to meet her ASAP.

4 days go by and she doesn't respond to my PM. 4 days is not a lot of time but I'm eager to meet her so I send her a second PM. I reiterate that I'm very serious about meeting her and ask her if she needed more info to screen me.

Now a week has gone by since I sent her the 2nd PM and she still hasn't responded to me. I send her a 3rd PM and tell her that I understand that she's busy. With her looks, she must have a long line of guys waiting to meet her. I also tell her that despite the fact that some time has gone by, I'm still interested.

I wait for yet another full week after sending my 3rd PM and still no reply from her. Now normally I don't allow anyone to treat me this way. I never send more than 2 PMs and if she doesn't respond to my second PM, I forget about her and move on to the next lady. However as I already stated, Blonde Barbie is special.

So a week after sending my 3rd PM, I send her my fourth and final PM. The title of my PM is "Are you going to meet me or not?" Yes a bit rude but I was running out of patience at that point. I ask Blonde Barbie to tell me once and for all if she can meet me or not. I also tell her that if she can't meet me for whatever reason, that's fine but please let me know so I can move on. Don't leave me hanging.

I guess the title of my fourth PM caught her attention because Blonde Barbie replied to me the same day and asked if I'm free on Thursday. I said yes and we met at an upscale Galleria hotel on Thursday February 21st 2019. I had the most amazing time of my life. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous, she's also very friendly, kind, and eager to please. After that session, I scheduled another meeting with her right away and we also started texting each other every day. Just light banter, jokes, and sometimes we would discuss our life problems. She told me that there are a lot of bad guys on ECCIE and that's why she liked me because I'm a good guy. I don't know if she was just trying to flatter me but it made me feel good regardless. While I'm sad that she has now retired and moved away, I'm glad I was able to share some very special moments with her.

So GingerKatt, your advice is spot on! If you find a lady who you know is special, be persistent! Send her a follow up ECCIE PM and even a PM after that if need be! I would have never met Blonde Barbie if I gave up after the first or second PM! Now if she says NO, then respect that and move on but no harm in trying in the beginning. Originally Posted by VeryClean

YES, I DO love a persistent man! As long as the PM's, texts and emails are respectful and kind, I LOVE knowing that he really and truly wants to see me, not is not wanting to book me as a "Plan B". Yeah, we know you guys do that. Book 2 or 3 for same day and time, and hope your first choice doesn't NCNS. So you NCNS on your Plan B, who is sitting there holding her phone, all fixed up for you and has saved this time just for you. Stop that!

Yes, I love a man that PM's every couple of day, texts nice things and emails too. I was never into short notice. I will answer a polite, nice man who wants to book with me, and he lets me know it. We find a compatible day and time, and Bob's your Uncle! I don't see men who text, I'm close to your area, I think, can I stop by for a quickie in 15 mins? NO. Now a favorite regular can do that all day, lol!

But look at all the reasons I mentioned in my first long winded post about why a lady may not be staring at her laptop or phone all day and jumping on every message. In YOUR FIRST message, introduce yourself, give your handle and 2-3 refs WITH links to their contact info. I'm not going to go around chasing a link to Sexy Slutty Girl. Give compliments, sound educated and tell how long of a visit you would like. And as much screening info as you can. If I have limited time, I'll answer the PM who sounds best and gives all screening info without me having to write back and say "who are you? Your Handle? Refs? How long a visit?"
No. I'll skip one that has no info.


And VeryClean, thanks for the compliment on the pic. I have no makeup on and yes I'm definitely in a hospital bed. I wasn't going for puppy dogs eyes, lol! That is my pitiful, painful, neglected look. I'd pushed the nurse call button 30 mins ago, and I wanted my IV morphine!! Probably should have taken an after pic. Ahhhh…..

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Yes, I love a man that PM's every couple of day, texts nice things and emails too. I was never into short notice. I will answer a polite, nice man who wants to book with me, and he lets me know it.. . . . . Originally Posted by GingerKatt

Great to hear that some ladies like this!! I ALWAYS ask my favorite ladies if it's OK to reach out occasionally to set things up, as those are ladies I want to see again and again. So I never quite understand the ghosting and non responsiveness sometimes.

Example of Not so Great story: A former ATF whom I had wonderful, incredible very fulfilling visits had a few NCNS situations. Then - I was having incredible Job Stress, and got sickly with cold/flu/whatever. So - we had a period of a few months of not seeing each other. However - I kept in touch with occasional nice (or so I thought) texts and messages that I truly enjoyed our times, and wanted to see her again. <Crickets> Sent texts and P411 Messages. She would view my profile, and <Crickets> again.

So - I always wondered...WHY did she ghost me, considering how awesome our visits were, great times and conversation, etc? YMMV as always, I suppose. She's 'online' on the other site as I write this, still hasn't resonded to any message I've sent over the last 7-8 months since our last visit.

Now for a GREAT story....

From a response to another thread, I had a dialogue with a very lovely and personable lady, we met for the 1st time, which was a FANTASTIC visit! We both agreed we will see each other again, and are OK with reaching out to each other occasionally. We will see if things go well, but this was a wonderful time with a wonderful new lady in my life.

(If you're reading this sweetie - XOXXXOXXOXOX to you, and thank you for everything special that you are.)

Another thing to mention is after I contact a provider whom I have not seen before, send her either my p411, handle, ect., she takes days even over a week many times to get back to me.

Unless we made plans for a certain date in the future, I contacted her because I wanted to see her within a day. Then, when she finally replies back and I tell her I spent the money that was to be for her and cannot do anything again for a little bit, she gets all pissed off like it is my fault I cannot see her right away.

Another thing to mention is after I contact a provider whom I have not seen before, send her either my p411, handle, ect., she takes days even over a week many times to get back to me.

Unless we made plans for a certain date in the future, I contacted her because I wanted to see her within a day. Then, when she finally replies back and I tell her I spent the money that was to be for her and cannot do anything again for a little bit, she gets all pissed off like it is my fault I cannot see her right away. Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

Well...Don't send her your P411 info! I always hated that. Copy, Paste, go to P411, sign in, put in the secret word and handshake and then attempt to enter your number. Nope.

P411 has the great feature where you send her an actual APPOINTMENT request. And then she knows you're serious. If a P411 provider ignores an appointment request she will be kicked off by Gina. You can even write a nice little note with your request and say if this time or day doesn't work for you, I'm also ok with dates and times of; blah blah blah.

And she HAS to respond if she want to keep her membership.
You are even encouraged to put in your preferred method of her contacting you back. Email, P411 PM, text, call, telepathy or smoke signals.

BTW here's my 411 info. P78204 Is that enough for you?