The Value of this Discussion Board

I have been studying OK and AR reviews the last few days, beginning with the inception of the board... I haven't detected (yet) a hobbyist reviewing the same provider 5, 10 or 15 times. Since I am looking at every review since the AR forum was established, I think I would spot that trend.

Of course, many hobbyists, including your weary moderator, have their "favorites", so there may be duplicate reviews. However, I am up to June 2010, and so far I haven't seen any indication of abuse.

If I see any "pimping", I'll send a love note to the overzealous admirer...

Huck Originally Posted by urhuckleberry

I would imagine that you've found at least a couple of examples by now! I don't really see a Big Deal though.....

Giz

I have been studying OK and AR reviews the last few days, beginning with the inception of the board... I haven't detected (yet) a hobbyist reviewing the same provider 5, 10 or 15 times. Since I am looking at every review since the AR forum was established, I think I would spot that trend.

Of course, many hobbyists, including your weary moderator, have their "favorites", so there may be duplicate reviews. However, I am up to June 2010, and so far I haven't seen any indication of abuse.

If I see any "pimping", I'll send a love note to the overzealous admirer...

Huck Originally Posted by urhuckleberry

seriously? i mean you are not joking?

cuz i count 13 by one hobbyiest of the same provider..

10 of the very same provider by another hobbyiest..


hobbyiest A-13 reviews of same girl-beginning in january-
with 2 reviews being posted on the same day with two different "dates" for the encounter just a mere 2 days apart..then another posted 3 days later that references a date of a mere "3 days" after the last session..then another posted 8 days after that..and yet another 3 days later..and another 9 days after that with a "date" of the encounter being a mere 3 days after the last supposed encounter..thats 6 reviews in one month.. then 3 days later..another review..then a month goes by before another review pops up and that trend then continues..


hobbyiest b-10 reviews by the very same provider..which just so happens to fall nicely between hobbyiest A's dates of reviews----
1 review about every 2 weeks.. slowing down to about 1 a month..


and that was just spending a little time doing some research of the known offenders..

thats a drastic "liking" for one provider and a serious push towards the theory of info being watered down and credibility being seriously impacted for both the hobbyiest involved and provider involved..

reading the reviews..that are damn near carbon copies of the last.. as i said in some cases just days apart.. basically being just another chance to blow some smoke up a girls ass.. get that provider back on the first page of the review section and overall does nothing in the way of providing new info just a chance to help the girl since nothing new happened..

Its that type of behavior that is allowed to happen and then to be told I am wrong or not seeing it the right way is even further insult to me and anyone else out there with my similar opinion of the forum..

as i said..that was just a quick search.. 13 reviews by one person..some just days apart..

10 by another..just weeks apart..

and thats not a problem?..i mean i understand the board is all about info.. but really?

however.. as arklookin has pointed out..even this type of discussion is beneficial to the board and the community since it allows knowledge and such to be brought to light.. and provides food for thought for lurkers, incoming hobbyiest and providers alike

The value of the discussion board helps filter out the scams, the stolen pictures and the girls who have been taken advantage of by the pimps, looking after their own interest rather than that of the provider. And you will have to admit, many using that media are staying at the Notels, have unkept incalls or the location is where most in the hobby don't care to venture. I realize that's a generalization and it does seem to vary from market to market.

I suppose, in the grand scheme of things its all about the search for SAFE poontang! Originally Posted by arklookn4lovn

Indeed there is some great things about new comers and people being drafted from the bp/cl world.. when they get over here you know where they came from their background etc.. which is much better than someone transferring over and starting "new" and possibly leading a hobbyiest or other providers into disaster.

the exchange of info allows providers and hobbyiest alike to determine who they want to avoid, who they want to see.. the need for some to run here and give out into..expose themselves etc.. allows us to be more prepared but leaves some wondering why they are shunned..

Without some kind of info..even bad info..the board loses its purpose..keep in mind..guys and girls can hobby with or without the board..but if more people (hobbyiest) would contribute meaningful useful trusted info the board could grow even more and be much more of an attribute to other hobbyiest..

I am baffled by the onslaught of negativity toward establishd members of the Arkansas Hobby scene. If just for a moment....let go of the immature,egotistical attitude and "listen" to them. They just "might"have something to offer. Obviously if you were not present,you do not have knowledge of the past. Acknowledgement of current issues going astray can only be identified by those that have comparision. Originally Posted by sadie

I do not believe the (mis)perceived "onslaught" is a matter of disrespect or a misguided sense of our experience being superior to others that have been in the playground longer...

It is quite simply, an objection... to the holier-than-thou attitudes, constant persecution and degradation that new players are subjected to.

Respect is a two-way street. Perhaps long-time members would be given credit where credit was due if they could be more constructive in their criticisms...and genuinely wanted to assist the new in the ways of the old... Rather than just spread malcontent and alienation.

After working through reviews until 11:00 last night, I didn't see the multiples of reviews you refer to, but of course I'm only up to June 2010 reviews. Has anyone clicked on the "my eccie reviews" tab in the left margin of each providers' post?

Assuming your count is correct, that's two members who were 1.) actually seeing the provider and posting their experience, or 2.) blowing smoke. Only the reviewer and provider know for sure, and I'm not empowered to call witnesses to the stand.


Huck

. . . the exchange of info allows providers and hobbyiest alike to determine who they want to avoid, who they want to see.. the need for some to run here and give out into..expose themselves etc.. allows us to be more prepared but leaves some wondering why they are shunned..

Without some kind of info..even bad info..the board loses its purpose..keep in mind..guys and girls can hobby with or without the board..but if more people (hobbyiest) would contribute meaningful useful trusted info the board could grow even more and be much more of an attribute to other hobbyiest.. Originally Posted by DeAnna Luv

My point exactly, DeAnna. Thank you for spelling it out. Even though the hobby has thrived since the beginning of time, the internet has made the spread of information and potentially, its safety much easier.

. . . Respect is a two-way street. Perhaps long-time members would be given credit where credit was due if they could be more constructive in their criticisms...and genuinely wanted to assist the new in the ways of the old... Rather than just spread malcontent and alienation. Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

Ginger, in any business, hobby included, change is difficult for many. As much as I'm a facilitator for change in the real world, I'll admit, its difficult for me too. The anonimity of the board and the nature of the written word often comes across harsher from both viewpoints. Practices of newbies (hobbyiest and providers, alike) which may be inconsistent from the perceived "norm" seem to draw the quick quip which sometimes leads to what comes across as disrespect.

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Assuming your count is correct, that's two members who were 1.) actually seeing the provider and posting their experience, or 2.) blowing smoke. Only the reviewer and provider know for sure, and I'm not empowered to call witnesses to the stand. Originally Posted by urhuckleberry

I didn't go back and look at the exact count, Huck, but there was a fan club of three or four who seemingly had reviews of the same provider. From someone who's been around the block a few times it appeared as 1) newbies getting it from the hobby for the 1st time and amazed about it, 2) teenagers getting for the first time in the back seat of a car, 3) the blatant promotion of a provider not new to the hobby but new to this board (aka white knight), and/or 4) most likely, unbridled enthusiasm for the experience, but not familiar with how valuable accurate information can be. PM me if you want to know more details. It really doesn't serve any useful purposes posting specifics in this thread.

This thread began with story of a hobbyist's dismal time up on the North Coast due to the lack of board activity and hence dearth of information on local providers. His point is well taken if only by contrast to the ECCIE board in the Republic of Texas particularly its Capital. In my recent experience I found Austin to be a hobby mecca with ECCIE robustly engaged. Have not done the statistics on providers per capita, but this board would be wise to follow the lead of Mr thread starter and Mr. Mod, and let the BP gals migrate to this board. Law of supply and demand and discussion will serve its function as it has in the past.

It's fairly clear , that some types of board activity will not be perceived equally by all... even when very well pointed out.... in this case, even counted!!
.... and a Mod says he still can't see it?!?!
But, like I already said .... no big deal.... I'm a big fan of the same girl.... so I can kinda understand why those guys were so ga-ga over something so sweet!

The Big Deal is.... there are some people with Holier Than Thou attitudes here.... but years of experience has nothing to do with the makeup of that list. We have already seen the results of some not wanting or willing to listen to good advice.... we will see more. That's fine too.

This is supposed to be a place where information is exchanged.... knowledge/education/experience transfer is never a guarantee.

Giz

I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as hyperbole!----unknown author.

It's fairly clear , that some types of board activity will not be perceived equally by all... even when very well pointed out.... in this case, even counted!! In a few days the proof, if any, will be clearly evident as I complete the reviews database.

.... and a Mod says he still can't see it?!?! Hey, cut me some slack. I have been working 8+ hours a day on the reviews database...when completed, there may be some real eye-openers...

But, like I already said .... no big deal.... I'm a big fan of the same girl.... so I can kinda understand why those guys were so ga-ga over something so sweet! Agree, Giz.

The Big Deal is.... there are some people with Holier Than Thou attitudes here.... but years of experience has nothing to do with the makeup of that list. We have already seen the results of some not wanting or willing to listen to good advice.... we will see more. That's fine too. Some of those untoward results were suffered by those who followed reasonable safety precautions. Life is a bitch sometimes.

This is supposed to be a place where information is exchanged.... knowledge/education/experience transfer is never a guarantee. Amen.

Giz Originally Posted by MrGiz

Huck

It's interesting.....

I started taking advice from more established ladies quite some time ago. My career only improved. I even still take advice from them, and more importantly, I ASK for advice from them. Still improving. I've never felt the way others seem to feel in regards to feeling persecuted and degraded. It's been just the opposite in fact. Even when mean old Deanna gives me unwanted advice in my pm box, I feel encouraged. Shelby and Sadie have both been willing to help the willing. When I was in NWA I scheduled my work only after first having lunch with Miss Randi and Ms. Harley, both also eager to talk shop and would help me with anything I ask them.

My screening and practices improved, my "on the road" skills improved, my income and money management skills improved. So I've obviously had a different experience and the only explanation I can find is that maybe it was because I know that they know better than I do, and I decided to benefit from it instead of reject it. I admitted my stupidity and asked for help and was never denied.

And very glad I did

I found a community of women here who are helpful and very nice, despite what some people have made up in their heads about them. I guess the difference is that I KNOW them, took the time to get to know them, and then formed my opinions.

Its interesting how some people's experiences can be so different around here.

. . . .My screening and practices improved, my "on the road" skills improved, my income and money management skills improved. So I've obviously had a different experience and the only explanation I can find is that maybe it was because I know that they know better than I do, and I decided to benefit from it instead of reject it. I admitted my stupidity and asked for help and was never denied.

And very glad I did . . . .. Originally Posted by Blond_Lily

Lily, I've said since the first time we met, "You Get It!"

.... Its interesting how some people's experiences can be so different around here. Originally Posted by Blond_Lily

Interesting, Indeed!! But also, fairly normal, perhaps?

We are all different people, of many different ages, personalities and backrounds, varying degrees of experience, varying degrees of financial status, trying to enjoy the same illegal hobby, for varying reasons of self-interest.... We even have LE here to keep us all nervous and untrusting....

Differences of opinion? Imagine That!!

Giz

Okay, FINE... You Guys Win... LoL! Kidding But I Do Want You To Know I Realize That Eccie Is ALOT Diff IN MANY WAYS but In MANY WAYS The Same. As Far As LE Goes & What It's All About, I Do Post More Photos Here That I Wouldn't Normally Share On BP Just Because I Feel This Is A Little More Private, Takes A Little More Out Of Your Time To Sign Up And Get In On The Goods, Also I Like That We Can Get Together Here And Share Our Laughs And Improve Our Ways & Learn From Others Experiences...

ECCIE Is What We Make It , And When We Don't Like Thats When We Kick Them Off Or Whatever That Means When It Says Acccount Deleted On Peoples Profiles! lol...

Also I Have Had The Pleasure Of Meeting Alot Of Very Kind Gentlemen From The ASPD n ECCIE Boards... N P411 Has Helped, Along With Alot Of The Ladies Here On Eccie With Ref's And Such....

SOOOO...

I ECCIE!

As Far As LE Goes & What It's All About, I Do Post More Photos Here That I Wouldn't Normally Share On BP Just Because I Feel This Is A Little More Private, Takes A Little More Out Of Your Time To Sign Up And Get In On The Goods, Also I Like That We Can Get Together Here And Share Our Laughs And Improve Our Ways & Learn From Others Experiences...
Originally Posted by MissDreams

I will be accused of being rude again..

but you and anyone else..does realize that ANYONE that stumbles upon this website can "see the goods".. i.e photos, reviews, provider ads etc..

you do NOT have to be a registered member here to see that stuff.. only to post..

that goes for LE.. horny 18yr yr olds with no money.. stalkers, convicts, co-workers, the mail guy etc etc etc.. ANYONE..

People need to realize that i venture to say the unregistered "lurkers" probably or possibly could out weight the registered known members..