Are there non-C (FS) providers??

CID: Come In Deep. Unprotected sex.
BBFS: Unprotected sex.

Although Central Intelligence Division does sound a bit scary.

It is true that DATY is rare as a result of DATY with one exception, HPV which can be transmitted orally and can lead to cancer. See this and do some research,

http://www.rdoc.org.uk/hpv.html

You should use a dental damn or saran rap if you feel more comfortable, but honestly, it's pretty darn hard to get anything from performing DATY. Originally Posted by Sensual Sophia

Actually, you can get Strep thoat from DATY. It is Strep beta not the more common Strp A. It isn't as serious, but rinsing with listerine after could help or maybe a good bourbon.

This has happened to me with 3 different providers.

I didnt mention it because everyone has HPV. Most strains have no symptoms. And the "cancer" some of the strains can cause hardly qualifies in my book since it is easily detected by a pap smear, is slow growing, and easily treated without invasive procedures. But yes, if someone is concerned about catching a virus that 98% of people already have, then they should use a dental damn. I myself am always impressed by the guys who bring those things with them.

Damn KM ; I must be dense too! I thought CID was central intel div... I always assumed that meant deep in her throat?? Originally Posted by sterling1

Me too, Sterling. I have visions of cum coming out her nose

Guess I don't know what CID means, oh well. Seems like an acronym from when I used to watch M*A*S*H* when I was a kid. lol

There are several in Austin that do FS without a cover. Krissy at xnaughtygurlz specializes in it, and will get some of her girls to do it for you once you know her. She will also arrange for GREEK without a cover. There's no substitute for it. It's the natural way. Whatever STDs there are they can be treated. A little risk is part of a full life.

CID - Criminal Investigation Department

this is an interesting thread and educational for both the providers & the hobbyists

here is more on HPV

Human Papillomavirus: Over 100 HPVs are known, and ~30 are typically transmitted sexually. An estimated 80% of sexually active adults have one or more strains without knowing it. HPV types 16 and 18 are responsible for >70% of cervical cancer cases. However, most HPV infections are cleared rapidly by the immune system and do not progress to cervical cancer. Some HPVs, such as types 6 and 11, can cause genital warts. Other skin warts are caused by type 1 HPV. Recent studies have concluded that condoms only offer limited protection against transmission of genital HPVs, since HPVs can infect genital skin areas not covered by condoms. On June 8th, 2006, the FDA approved Gardasil, an HPV vaccine that protects women against initial infection with HPV types 16 and 18, and types 6 and 11.

This book is also a good read - the woman who wrote is a obg/gyn for teenage kids....the sexual revolution has wreaked havoc on kids whose bodies are not yet developed to resist these viruses & bacteria.

Epidemic
How Teen Sex is Killing Our Kids
by Meg Meeker, M.D.
Lifeline Press ; ISBN: 0-89526-143-X
Hardcover - 288 pages (October 2002) $24.95

Sexually transmitted diseases among our teens have become a full-blown epidemic — and it's killing our kids. In 1960, doctors battled two commonly known STDs. Today, more than 30 viruses exist. One in five Americans over the age of 12 has genital herpes - a 500% increase since 1976. New studies
show that teenage girls have a 46 % chance of contracting HPV at their first sexual encounter - a disease that is directly connected to 99.7% of cervical cancers. Clearly, this epidemic is wreaking havoc on our youth.

In this groundbreaking expose, Dr. Meg Meeker uncovers the story of this serious epidemic and the pattern of political correctness and marketing hype that has caused this tidal wave of disease. Says Meeker, “We’ve been so focused on birth control that we’ve completely forgotten about disease control.

In Epidemic, Dr. Meeker explains the facts behind the epidemic, tracing the causes, from our overemphasis on birth control to the “false sexual world” created by television, the movies and the media. If you’re a parent or guardian, teacher or relative, of a teen-ager, this book can help you understand the dynamics behind this frightening medical phenomenon, and show you what you can do to keep your child from becoming another statistic.

Great question, and yes, this is something that you need to worry about. Even if said provider uses condoms 100% while working, she MAY not use condoms 100% in her private life.

She may be married and has had her tubes tied, or her husband has had a vasectomy.. they may choose not to cover up because the risk of pregnancy has been greatly reduced... there are any number of scenarios that could happen where said provider would choose not to use a condom.

... and no, there is no way to guarantee that said provider has never gone bareback.

LF Originally Posted by LadiesFan

Agree with LF on this one. I also would like to add that most of the clients probably perform BBFS with either their SO or civie GF.

So we are all at risk.... Cover up and be safe!

anyone hobbying that does bbfs is crazy , worst 6month of my life was after a crazy drunk , i went to a amp in houston and did a bbfs , wokeup next day and thought WTF did you do , went to a Dr got a blood test , went back 3 month later clean , 3 months later clean no STDs , but neaver ever again , i go and donate blood and they send me a all clear card ,but neaver ever again

I've worked in several countries where the letters CID stand for the national criminal police, or Central Investigatory Department or Central Investigations Division, or some variation thereof. Usually these are British Commonwealth countries.

I've never heard of those letters meaning "Central Intelligence Division" anywhere, and no one ever would because of the similarity with C.I.A., which is hated the world over.

She will also arrange for GREEK without a cover. There's no substitute for it. It's the natural way. Whatever STDs there are they can be treated. A little risk is part of a full life. Originally Posted by publicenemy

I really hope you're joking. Herpes and HIV can't be cured.

By the way, there's a term for BBGreek w/providers - it's called "death wish".

For a man, it is relatively hard to catch HIV, unless an infected man is giving you anal. As a heterosexual man, I'd be more concerned about herpes and unwanted pregnancy.

BTW, isn't China coming out with the liquid condom soon?

I don't think anyone should be practicing UN-safe sex or bragging about having it with someone other than your SO...

Liquid condom? sounds cool

There are several in Austin that do FS without a cover. Krissy at xnaughtygurlz specializes in it, and will get some of her girls to do it for you once you know her. She will also arrange for GREEK without a cover. There's no substitute for it. It's the natural way. Whatever STDs there are they can be treated. A little risk is part of a full life. Originally Posted by publicenemy

Well, now there is a Self Posted Alert if ever there was one!