How discreet...

First, sounds like P411 is the best way for you to go, but be aware that they will STILL ask for the same info many of us ladies require. Second, research the object of your desire and you'll be able to tell if she's a "crazy chick." You can get a sense of her from reviews, her posts, posts about her, and her website. As other ladies have mentioned, an intelligent, established provider will not endanger her reputation by being indiscreet, exhibiting erratic behavior, or keeping detailed, accessible records.

I have been around for nearly 6 years and have seen all sorts of "important" gentleman with much to protect, yet somehow I find myself not remembering a single detail after they passed my screening. Who was that again? Nope, never heard of him.

Meh. In my business you can tell hooker stories in a client meeting. It's hard to find someone in oil & gas who doesn't have a hooker story of their own. You just have to listen to your audience for 5 or 10 minutes first. If they don't say a single cuss word in 10 minutes then they are devout televangelist types and you should keep them to yourself.

Fundamentally, it's like the cold war - both sides have enough information to screw each other over so as long as everyone plays nice, we're all ok!



"It's always cold in Siberia."
-Molotov Cocktease

^^^ What he said.

You know...I hear a lot about guys being afraid of someone calling up their job and outing them, being scared of what a provider will say to someone at their company... but of all the things Ive come across, I have never heard of this actually ever happening.

Is something like this really going on that Im just not aware of that guys are so scared of it? I hear *far*more about guys turning into stalkers and threatening to out us as escorts, and honestly, none at all of escorts calling up a guys job/home to try and wreck his life.

I agree that if one sticks to established ladies with a good reputation and solid history, that he shouldnt be so scared shes the sort who will risk her business by messing with him like that...she wants the info to stay safe, not to stalk and harrass him. I mean, very different if its someone who changed her name and number every week and has a shaky shady reputation, but its as simple as avoiding those.

its called a "moral turpitude" clause.... most companies have in in their employment contracts where if you are caught doing something that could embarrass the company or make them look bad (and the company gets to pick and choose what acts qualify) then they can dismiss you.

A good example would be a guy who works as a college professor, yet goes and see's escorts. Do you want him teaching college kids? (and fyi, some of the ladies in the ads on BP look to be college age so who knows...)

Or you are a corporate CEO, but get caught in a Vice sting... makes the news. The company is a publicly traded company so what the CEO does in all aspects of his life can be reflected in stock value. Stock holders think he should not be out chasing tail, they dump the stock.

And here's the beauty of P411...just now saw a girl visiting next week I'd really love to meet for the first time. Sent appt request with my availability, within 5 minutes she emails me, we set date and time, exchange phone numbers, she will contact me day before with location...done deal in about ten total minutes...no back forth on references, screening options, or anything else... I know she's legit and she knows I am, now just anticipation of a great time.

yet somehow I find myself not remembering a single detail after they passed my screening. Who was that again? Nope, never heard of him. Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Damn .. I'm heartbroken. You told me you would never forget me, how fickle you are ....

Damn .. I'm heartbroken. You told me you would never forget me, how fickle you are .... Originally Posted by gsgm

...Most reputable providers only care about being safe. It's not LE that we have to be scared of. It's the sickos out there that will rob,rape or become a potential stalker. I as a provider only care about if you are safe. I have no intentions of blackmailing or interfering with your life what so ever. .... Originally Posted by SensualSpecialist

And there you have it, yes..... MOST, how do we know who falls under the most category and who falls under the others category? (just as there are sickos hobbysts out there are just as many sicko providers) easy for a provider to say but many of us (probably "most"of us men) have a LOT more to lose than you as a provider good (employments, reputation and/or SOs)

So DO NOT complain about many of us being over careful. I finally got a 411 account but that was after I changed employments (got verified just before leaving an employer for a better one) I would not have done it otherwise,

One crazy provider can make it bad for everyone. And there have definitely been instances where a provider has outed people at work. Most providers would NEVER do that, but the 1% who would makes it a risk for hobbyists.

The flip side is the same way. There is a reason why providers screen.

I've now given out my employment info to 3 different entities --- Date Check, p411, and a well reviewed provider. I didn't have a problem with any of them. Originally Posted by proudoftexas

Never underestimate the power of a "well reviewed" provider to wreak havoc with your livelihood.

Never underestimate the power of a "well reviewed" provider to wreak havoc with your livelihood. Originally Posted by Ansley

Ansley gets it. The potential for significant damage is very real.

There's a difference between "well-reviewed," and "well-respected..." The first has to do with what's between her legs, the second has to do with what's between her ears. Most ladies who have been around a while understand that messing with one man's livelihood has the effect of messing with her own. Generally, the ladies who are very cautious with their own safety will be more discreet and cautious about your safety as well. You can often read posts and judge who will be more likely to value discretion.

the second has to do with what's between her ears. Originally Posted by theCFE

Wait a second... that's one those things we have to give an extra donation for, right?