Didn't you just say affirmative action has been around since the '60s? Well shit, after 6 fucking decades I would think we would have seen enough positive results that we can all go back to Martin Luther King's laudable goal of being a "colorblind" society, no? Instead, libtards want us to double down on their failures by demanding that we all pay homage to some amorphous concept of "equity". As far as I can tell, it's just affirmative action on steroids.
So eye - where are all those "scared little boys" you seem to scorn? Nowadays, I see a lot more woke young white male liberals, who fancy themselves as SJWs, than I do "scared little boys". Which are you?
Originally Posted by lustylad
DEI is in effect, the advancement of Affirmative action, but WAY Different in that unlike AA, where the focus is simply on outcomes, DEI is focused on processes that make sure equitable, fair consideration is given, but no outcome is mandated. There is no, we are going to meet a goal of 33% of Diversity hires.
But the pathway to getting to include more diversity is there.
Nobody on a DEI board will tell you that unqualified ppl should get a job. NOT ONE. They will say however, it's great to have a goal, but a pathway towards meeting a goal is what is more important and a roadmap to follow.
Example: lets say 85% of higher level managers in any industry is made up of White males. There may be a requirement to have both females or ppl of color in both the interview teams on the employers side, (* currently the 15% of minority mix), and they may also say you cannot interview ANY candidates till we have atleast one diversity applicant in the mix. Making for due consideration of both equity in candidates and employer side having the opinions and visibility of diversity on both panels and candidates. Upon the conclusion of any interview team, the entire interview team gets together to debrief on the candidates, and they literally vote on who has the skills and talent, vs. who is white / black / brown. It's not trying to eliminate current white men as the hired candidate; it's ensuring that ALL people get visibility, and funny enough, many times it is the diversity candidate who literally shines above the others for a vast number of reasons.
- Education.
- Experiences.
- Perspectives.
- Eagerness and hungry for the opportunity
- Planned for the interview.
- Presented better reasons why they would be a best fit.
Often times ppl who think they are the shoe-in, don't do the prep work and assume they are next in line, only cause they work with that same person. Meanwhile, they suck at communication, delegation of work, or are toxic to co-workers, or are outright not ready to take the next step. Just cause they bowl on saturdays with the hiring manager and drink beer with them, doesn't mean they instantly get the job anymore.
Hope that answers your question.
relative to this last question;
So eye - where are all those "scared little boys" you seem to scorn? Nowadays, I see a lot more woke young white male liberals, who fancy themselves as SJWs, than I do "scared little boys". Which are you?
Originally Posted by lustylad
I'm not sure what a SJW (social justice warrior) is, but if you think that I'm only posing, or representing without presenting my case with facts, then I would suggest you point out the items you disagree with. As far as finger pointing at scared little boys, yes, I do that. I think it's a shame that uneducated young/ old men would condemn something because they perceive it as a threat, vs. embracing it as the evolution of who gets hired and why. Scared ppl often condemn shit they don't agree with, and castigate anyone who would dare change the status quo. There are reasons for change. You can pick your own reasons or others will pick them for you.
I think every place I worked at was better after there was a better process towards DEI, and yes sometimes a brown person was hired, but sometimes it was a white female also. You know the kind that we come to a "Ho board" to see. See, I like to keep things in perspective too. As much as I bash a too conservative approach, believe it or not, I don't believe in bullshit spending or pie in the sky, but I also don't like where the republican party is headed. Politicians know VERY little about DEI, and only what someone else told them mostly. I have to live with that everyday, and once it's understood, it's actually nothing to be scorned. Diversity of employees, is like diversity in pussy., don't you want to try something different? You just might like it.
I'd rather we find things to agree on mostly, that is until I see some really stupid retorts here.
