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That isn't even close to the truth. Pretty obvious over the last 50 years. Originally Posted by farmstud60Very obvious over the last 50 years Democrats cleaning up Republican disasters. Bush 1, Bush 2, Trump... All of them total fuckups and Dems had to clean the messes up. You'd think the American people would wisen up but too many rural farmers out there being paid to do jack shit for years. Fuckin trash 100% of these farm subsidies and see who votes for who.
Very obvious over the last 50 years Democrats cleaning up Republican disasters. Bush 1, Bush 2, Trump... All of them total fuckups and Dems had to clean the messes up. You'd think the American people would wisen up but too many rural farmers out there being paid to do jack shit for years. Fuckin trash 100% of these farm subsidies and see who votes for who. Originally Posted by royamcr
Pretty sure you already have to be a citizen to vote. Originally Posted by hughjaholIf only there were some simple explanation.. if only it were placed on this thread for ease of use... if only there were follow up posts explaining the issue.... I guess if there were I might put them somewhere convenient.. maybe some place like on the previous page?
Which makes me wonder what this bill is really for. What else was in it that made the Dems come out against it. Originally Posted by hughjaholSimple... they don't WANT it to be illegal for foreigners to vote in our election...
If only there were some simple explanation.. if only it were placed on this thread for ease of use... if only there were follow up posts explaining the issue.... I guess if there were I might put them somewhere convenient.. maybe some place like on the previous page? Originally Posted by texassapperIf only...you could answer a simple question and spare us your superior attitude. I figured that since you started this thread that you wouldn't mind providing a little detail. Never mind. Looked it up myself, don't strain yourself. So the bill would make people provide "documentary proof" they are citizens. Even though it has been shown over and over that this isn't a problem. So that seems like a good idea to you? Make 160 million people (I looked that up too) have to put up with a bunch of political nonsense just so the GOP can make the Dems look bad when they say "NO." WTF.
Simple... they don't WANT it to be illegal for foreigners to vote in our election... Originally Posted by texassapperAnd now you know that this is what they WANT. All of the Dems. They want this. Show me that this is true. Both things. First that voting by people who aren't citizens is a real problem. Second that this is what Dems WANT. Because I don't think either one is true. You might. But I don't believe you either. YOu are just repeating nonsense from Paxton.
If only...you could answer a simple question and spare us your superior attitude. Originally Posted by hughjaholI'm not superior. I'm just not ignorant.
I figured that since you started this thread that you wouldn't mind providing a little detail. Originally Posted by hughjaholHad you have bothered to read the thread from the start you would see in the images posted the details...
Never mind. Looked it up myself Originally Posted by hughjaholSee ignorance can be cured. Who know what you might learn next!?
don't strain yourself. Originally Posted by hughjaholWasn't planning to.
So the bill would make people provide "documentary proof" they are citizens. Even though it has been shown over and over that this isn't a problem. Originally Posted by hughjaholWell if it's NOT a problem then this law won't negatively impact Democrats ballot harvesting operations... it should be a now brainer to vote for it.
So that seems like a good idea to you? Originally Posted by hughjaholYes... and it does to 81% of the public as well. (See posts in this thread)
Make 160 million people (I looked that up too) have to put up with a bunch of political nonsense Originally Posted by hughjaholWhy would having to prove your eligible to actually vote be non-sense? I have to prove who I am at the bank, why not to perform a CIVIC duty?
just so the GOP can make the Dems look bad when they say "NO." WTF. Originally Posted by hughjaholThe Democrats don't HAVE to vote no on this bill. But they will... and the reason is that they NEED the fraudulent voting to stay in power...
And now you know that this is what they WANT. All of the Dems. They want this. Show me that this is true. Originally Posted by hughjaholI don't have to show you, they will. With their "No" vote. That's the point of having our representatives vote... they are expressing the will of their constituents. (or should be). So when a Dem say No...it should not be illegal for foreigners to vote in US elections, they are TELLING YOU what they believe.
Both things. First that voting by people who aren't citizens is a real problem. Originally Posted by hughjaholIf it's NOT a problem then this law is just a formality...
Second that this is what Dems WANT. Originally Posted by hughjaholJust explained it to you...
Because I don't think either one is true. Originally Posted by hughjaholgood for you... You just explained you don't understand how voting is an expression of constituent will... Why would I care about your opinion on a matter you don't understand?
YOu are just repeating nonsense from Paxton. Originally Posted by hughjaholLol... yes, this is all about Ken Paxton... again... you could bother to read the thread.
No, liberals actually research and read from multiple sources to find the real story instead of magats just posting the first sensational propaganda conspiracy bullshit they find. Probably Russian assets fucking with your brains. Originally Posted by royamcrBecause 51 ex government “security experts” signed a letter two weeks prior saying Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation?
Because 51 ex government “security experts” signed a letter two weeks prior saying Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation? Originally Posted by Michael8219They didn't say that. They warned that it might be because of language used and things like that. Here is a summary from Newsweek: ""We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not, and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement—just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case," the letter said."
I'm not superior. I'm just not ignorant. Originally Posted by texassapperYou very obviously think you are superior. The whole tone of your replies to me has been like that. And I didn't say you were ignorant. But you use arguments and sources that support your views and don't consider other facts that do not.
Had you have bothered to read the thread from the start you would see in the images posted the details... Originally Posted by texassapperYou mean the images that do not at all show what you say they do? Like the image from Pew Research that only shows people support showing ID and says nothing about supporting proving citizenship?
See ignorance can be cured. Who know what you might learn next!? Originally Posted by texassapperI am learning that you cannot support your arguments with actual facts. Being rude and sarcastic does not help you.
Well if it's NOT a problem then this law won't negatively impact Democrats ballot harvesting operations... it should be a now brainer to vote for it. Originally Posted by texassapperNot a good argument. Paxton wants to make 160 million people prove their citizenship to vote. A hassle that is not needed.
Yes... and it does to 81% of the public as well. (See posts in this thread. Originally Posted by texassapperLike I said above the 81 percent are people that support showing ID. Your posts do not prove the same amount support having to prove citizenship.
Why would having to prove your eligible to actually vote be non-sense? I have to prove who I am at the bank, why not to perform a CIVIC duty? Originally Posted by texassapperI'll say that again too. Because it is not needed. Why make 160 million people do this if it is not. The answer is because this is all just a political show to make the Dems look bad. But it is a set up. And you are playing along.
The Democrats don't HAVE to vote no on this bill. But they will... and the reason is that they NEED the fraudulent voting to stay in power.... Originally Posted by texassapperThey don't HAVE to. They just don't want to play dumb games with this like the GOP has been trying to do.
I don't have to show you, they will. With their "No" vote. That's the point of having our representatives vote... they are expressing the will of their constituents. (or should be). So when a Dem say No...it should not be illegal for foreigners to vote in US elections, they are TELLING YOU what they believe. Originally Posted by texassapperNo. You don't have to. But the real truth is that you can't. There is no proof of almost everything you say in your posts. And you know it. Just like you also know that the Dems are not saying it should not be illegal for foreigners to vote. It won't stop you from saying it though. But things like this just make it worse.
If it's NOT a problem then this law is just a formality... Originally Posted by texassapperNo. It is a piece of showboating bullshit. You know that too. It will make 160 million people go through hassles that are not needed. And it is so two-faced. The GOP fights unnecessary bureaucracy all the time. Until something like this.
Just explained it to you... Originally Posted by texassapperYou have explained nothing. Just made the same arguments using the same bad logic and facts that are taken out of context.
good for you... You just explained you don't understand how voting is an expression of constituent will... Why would I care about your opinion on a matter you don't understand? Originally Posted by texassapperYou just explained how you don't understand my points at all. I guess it is not enough that you misrepresent all of your facts. Now you do it with my arguments too. And you obviously care enough about my opinion to respond to me line by line by line. Seems to be a thing you do a lot. What a waste of time. Like I said I'm only doing this once. Paxton lies and misrepresents. You play along. Find something to talk about that is actually meaningful.
This does not show what texassapper says it does. It shows that people support showing ID. It does not say 81 percent of people support having to prove citizenship. Originally Posted by hughjaholCheck your ID Einstien. Does it have a little gold star? Know why it does/should? Proves you are a US citizen. That started several years ago after 9/11. Clearly, we need to go back to have a basics civics test before people can vote.
Check your ID Einstien. Does it have a little gold star? Know why it does/should? Proves you are a US citizen. That started several years ago after 9/11. Clearly, we need to go back to have a basics civics test before people can vote. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_DoOMG. Really? Too bad there is not a test for being able to post here. You should do your research, but I know that is frowned upon here. You just have to be a legal resident to get a realID. And legal residents who are non-citizens cannot vote.