Provider business plan?!

Sir Lance is right. Ladies if you want to become ATF status, contact is key.

Last week I contacted a girl and we missed completely. She sent me a short apology. I now think very highly of her and we met. She is the first lady I've met at all this year.

Ladies if you have clients you like, short e mails and PMs go a long way to influence our next appt decisions. If you want business, your client contacts are a great place to start.

I don't know about you all but I for one sit around all day drinking trying to make #cunty trend on twitter. Originally Posted by thathottnurse

<3 this!

I have to agree with Grace that most ladies DO NOT do two appts per day either by choice or need. I would not want to see two clients a day steadily over time. It wears on you (no pun intended).

There are days when a lady my age just wants to fcuk and have orgasms all day. If I could figure out the algorithm that predicts when you fellas catch a breeze in your zipper and correlate it with my sex drive now THAT would be a real business plan and I'd be one riiiiiiiiich bitch. Lol

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Drive to ftw or jack off.

Said in total sarcasm.

Drive to ftw or jack off.

Said in total sarcasm. Originally Posted by thathottnurse

M'kay

Lost in translation

I would not want to see two clients a day steadily over time. It wears on you (no pun intended).
Originally Posted by thathottnurse

These analyses of our business plans act like we're selling cappuccinos

If I were just giving a massage and a hand job, sure I could do several a day, but as a GFE there is a very human connection.

There are GOOD emotional consequences. I talked to a friend today who had a fabulous four-hour dinner date last night with a man she really likes so was taking today off to savor the memories (and not have them corrupted by something possibly less pleasant).

And there are BAD emotional consequences. After an hour of saying "no" and having one's nipples bitten, etc., it's far better to take a couple of days off than to greet the next day's hobbyist in a protective/defensive frame-of-mind.

Lost in translation Originally Posted by thathottnurse

Hardly. I just thought it was in poor taste. And I know its incorrect. I've always liked you. You've always been kind to me. You are helpful to the new gals..... But on this you are just wrong.

The hobby that's never just a hobby huh? Give a shout out to #cunty for me today.

The translation was loud, clear and received 100%.

I don't think you fully understand the ladies' expenses, Luv4fun. Tracy Brooks posted an awesome thread a couple years ago about what the ladies expenses are...wish I could find it. A real EYE OPENER. Originally Posted by Prolongus

Found it for you -

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1440379&postcount=4

I'm game. As far as expenses and labor, here's somewhat of an idea of mine. Keep in mind my donation and the fact that I am not a high volume girl. I've averaged about 25 appointments per month the past three months, excluding June, since I was off that month. I only get to work 3 weeks a month, since I take that special week off.

Expenses:
Hotel rooms: $65-$120/night (taxes and fees included). Let's say average $95/night. Since I'm traveling full time now, I have to get a hotel room every night, whether I get an appt that day or not, plus I have to get an extended stay room for the week I'm off, which a half-decent one will cost about $400/week or more. So that's almost $2600 in hotel expenses alone. 9 appointments just to pay for a place to work and sleep.

Travel: Traveling full-time, it's easy to log hundreds and hundreds of miles in a month. My next trip is to Memphis and Nashville. Were I not having to take that next week off, I would continue my trip outward from there. That's about 650 miles, and lets add another 50 just for driving around the cities, going to get supplies, going out to eat, etc etc. And that's not even a full week's trip. But let's just say it is. Plus, add another, oh, 50 miles for my week off. 2000 miles/mo in my truck, which averages 20 MPG, and with gas at about $3.50/gallon, that's almost $350 in gas. Not to mention wear and tear on my truck, all my maintenance costs, etc. I'd say over the past 3 months (which admittedly have been particularly bad for my poor truck) I've spent about $400/mo on maintenance. Total: $750

Food: Let's just make this one easy and say I spend $7/meal, three times a day. I aimed a little low, because sometimes I get free breakfast at the hotels (though most 4 star hotels I've stayed at do not offer free breakfast) and sometimes I eat fast food, or even just get to grocery shop. Remember, I'm on the road, and I don't have a fridge to store groceries. If I end up eating at restaurants a lot, this number can go up significantly. So, $21/day, 30 days a month. Total: $630

Supplies: I'm lumping ALL of my work supplies together. Sexy dresses, condoms, candles, lotion, lube, panties, shoes, baby wipes, mouthwash, mints, shower gel, make up (yes, I consider this a work expense, because frankly, I don't wear much make up very often when I'm not working).. and the list goes on. I would say I spend somewhere between $150-$200/mo on supplies. Let's average that. Total: $175

Self Maintenance: Fact is, I have to be as flawless as possible for you guys. I know some of you will say that for you I don't need mani-pedis and hair care and all of that, but the fact is, most of you DO expect such self care from us. If I answer the door without looking my best, and the next lady DOES look her best, it's not hard to figure out who you might prefer to see. Anyway, hair color and cut = $150 tip included. Mani-Pedi and eyebrow wax every two weeks = $60 each trip, tip included. Keep in mind, I go to cheapish places, that number can be higher if the lady likes expensive treatment. Also, I have to get expensive facial washes and moisturizers and such to avoid break outs, lotion, hair spray/gel, etc etc that can easily cost me $100/mo in all. I'm also getting laser hair removal for $700 and I got cosmetic dentistry recently which was about $3000 including travel expenses, PLUS it cost me a month off work. But since those are one time things, we won't include them in the total. Personally, I do not get massages, but many ladies do, and I probably should, so I'm saving a bit of money there. I also don't tan, get facials, leg/lip/bikini waxing, or a number of other things that other ladies might. Adding in a fraction of less frequent self-maintenance things (brazillian blowouts, for example)... Total: $400/mo

I'll stop here with expenses. If you took my 25 appts a month and multiplied that by my 1 hour rate (which is the majority of my appointments) you came up with a seemingly very cushy number. We've gone through 2/3 of that already, and this is not in any way how much I have to spend to live, simply to work and eat and sleep. I also have a phone bill, a storage room bill, a dog to support (and a petsitter to pay while I'm traveling), car insurance, etc etc etc. I know it seems like we as providers should be living the high life and have thousands to save a month, but that's simply not reality.

Labor:
Now, for those of you who are like "But Traci, that's still a pretty good damn living for only working 25 hours a month." The fact is, I work WAY more than 25 hours a month. Here's a basic breakdown of my labor:

Advertising/Website maintenance: This I pay someone for, but at one time, I did do it myself (and not nearly as well, I might add). At that time, I'd say I averaged about an hour a day on these things.

Emails/Phone Calls/Screening: Time. Consuming. You can believe that I spend around 3-5 hours a day answering emails and making/receiving phone calls or text messages, and researching and screening clients. Easy. Sometimes more. I know you're sitting there thinking "But you only average 1 or 2 appointments a day, how could you possibly spend that much time on client communication and screening?!" Well, there are usually many more than one or two phone calls and email exchanges per client/per appointment that walks through my door. Not to mention most guys do not send screening information in their first message, and do not send ALL of their screening info in the second or third, even. Also, a majority of guys that contact me are time-wasters that will never come see me. Then I have to track down ladies who may or may not get back to me, ask for replacement references for those who didn't, answer questions, maintain a little flirtation (not too much, please), and so on.

Getting ready: 2 1/2 hours a day, initially. Shower, shave, hair, makeup, get dressed, get room ready. If I have a second appointment, 1 hour to bathe, freshen up, and get the room ready again. Also, another half hour to clean up after appointment, if I don't have another one coming.

Appointment: If it's a one hour appointment, I'm actually probably spending 75 minutes here. A few minutes waiting for you to arrive, and then most gents do not actually leave within the hour, but maybe 5 or 10 past. And those are the respectful ones.

I'd say even on days when I only have one appointment, I'm easily spending 6 hours on work. And for those of you that did the math and thought "That's still a pretty good hourly wage," please see the expenses section.

This post is only meant to reflect MY expenses/labor. Another lady's may be very, very different from mine. Also, this post is in no way meant to be all inclusive, just sort of a general idea of what it's like and some food for thought. Keep in mind, I don't have kids, and MANY ladies do. Imagine adding the cost of a supporting a whole other person or two to this mix. Jeez.

And for the record, time spent writing this post... 25 minutes. Originally Posted by Traci

Traci is a fucking smart one. Still have a girl crush on her.

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Tony.. I'm thinking a dallas visit is in order Miss ya!

I was going to write something to the point that even with 10 gents a week at 300 a pop thats 3K a week included in the cal is a discount for aunt flow thats 9k a month (3Kx3Weeks) and this I assume is all tax free. You must admit thats a conservative figure/calculation.

A good business person knows, control your expenses in order to stay in the Black. No need to argue about cost, create a business plan, create a budget and stick to it. If you are bleeding money, cut your expenses or increase prices if the market can bare it or discount and increase volume (Again another comment made in jest no advice was given or intended) (legal disclaimer)

I don't know why dudes give a fuck trying to figure out how much money these ladies make.....Just worry about your own wallet.

People spend money on dumb shit regardless of income. It's a waste of time to lump folks together and assume anything when it comes to income and savings because everyone has different circumstances.

If I could figure out the algorithm that predicts when you fellas catch a breeze in your zipper and correlate it with my sex drive now THAT would be a real business plan and I'd be one riiiiiiiiich bitch. Lol Originally Posted by thathottnurse

The algorithm is simple.

Let (y) be how many days of the year we're thinking about sex many times per day....

Let (x) be the number people with Triskaidekaphobia are concerned with

x^2+(x+1)^2=y



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13^2+(13+1)^2=y

169+196=y

y=365 days per year!!

See? Simple!