Me again......

Your pain ends yeah, but it's a lifetime of pain and guilt and unanswered questions for the people that loved you. Believe me I know. My mom committed suicide Jan 9th, 2015.

Ok, I'll bite – why? What did I post that you disagree with? Why should someone live through the pain of a fucked up life, with no realistic chance of things getting any better, versus just hitting the off button and ending the ongoing pain?

People die all the time. What is the big deal? Jimmie Van Zant just died at 59. Do you think he's sad? No, he doesn't exist any more. Whatever he was is gone.

I ask myself this same question all the time. If my life becomes more pain than it's worth, I will be checking out of this place. Why not?

Don't attack me, tell me your thoughts. I'm seriously interested.

L4L Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

Death is a natural part of life....suicide haunts those that love you for the rest of their lives.

Ok, I'll bite – why? What did I post that you disagree with? Why should someone live through the pain of a fucked up life, with no realistic chance of things getting any better, versus just hitting the off button and ending the ongoing pain?

People die all the time. What is the big deal? Jimmie Van Zant just died at 59. Do you think he's sad? No, he doesn't exist any more. Whatever he was is gone.

I ask myself this same question all the time. If my life becomes more pain than it's worth, I will be checking out of this place. Why not?

Don't attack me, tell me your thoughts. I'm seriously interested.

L4L Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

I realize you weren't addressing me but I'm going to respond anyway.

The human condition is hopeful and perseverant. It's why our species survived past the first few generations. It's why we innovate and accomplish things.

Your position is the intellectual and emotional antithesis of human survival.



Duthgar, if you haven't already done so, I think now would be a good time for crisis intervention. In your other post I suggested your nearest ER. If you're unable to get there, call a crisis hotline. The folks here cannot offer you any substantial help no matter how much we want to.

I see you haven't been on here in a few days. I hope you're okay and getting help. HUGS!!!

Ok, I'll bite – why? What did I post that you disagree with?

....Why not?

Don't attack me, tell me your thoughts. I'm seriously interested.

L4L Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

Reeaallllllyyyyy??

*eyes roll completely out of my head, onto the floor.... out the door and down the street... finally coming to rest where you are*

(I will need those back, bro...DON'T lose them!)

You'll bite? You're the one who cast the fucking line out...Pls G-T-F-O-H w/that bullshit

This is real life and OP is clearly in a very tough spot. What if what you said was what tipped the scales, here? Are you ok w/that?

I don't know if OP has said what his disability is, but based on what he said in this thread, we are talking about EMOTIONAL pain. Untreatable/unrelenting physical pain, or terminal illness, is something altogether different. How many times has someone been depressed as hell and then suddenly felt a weight lifted? Yeah, it sucks trying to hang in there until that day/moment comes, but how much would you have missed if you'd 'checked out' before that?

Who knows what we are on this planet for.... but there's a lot of damn fun/funny shit going on. It might be worth it just to stay and see what happens next

Dude, I don't know why you haven't offed yourself. The pain will end. Do you like living a miserable life? Do you think you can turn your life around? Really? Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

Ironic...I am curious why someone with the word LIFE in their handle would suggest suicide as a choice to another human being. Guess its easy to pop that out there to someone you'll never meet. But could you honestly tell us you'd pass this sage advice along to someone close to you....a loved one, in fact?

Reeaallllllyyyyy??

Blah blah blah ...

I don't know if OP has said what his disability is, but based on what he said in this thread, we are talking about EMOTIONAL pain. Untreatable/unrelenting physical pain, or terminal illness, is something altogether different. How many times has someone been depressed as hell and then suddenly felt a weight lifted? Yeah, it sucks trying to hang in there until that day/moment comes, but how much would you have missed if you'd 'checked out' before that?

Who knows what we are on this planet for.... but there's a lot of damn fun/funny shit going on. It might be worth it just to stay and see what happens next Originally Posted by Y0yoY0

Why do you think unrelenting emotional pain is less than physical pain? I think it's worse. And as far as the pain being suddenly 'lifted' goes, that was kinda my point. If you know it's *not* going to be magically lifted, because it isn't like getting a headache, why live with it?

Ironic...I am curious why someone with the word LIFE in their handle would suggest suicide as a choice to another human being. Guess its easy to pop that out there to someone you'll never meet. But could you honestly tell us you'd pass this sage advice along to someone close to you....a loved one, in fact? Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

If you enjoy life, there is no reason to not continue doing so. But if you don't enjoy life, and you understand why you don't, and you understand that it is very unlikely your circumstances will change, why keep hitting your head with life's hammer? It doesn't make sense.

Yes, I believe if I end up in this situation, I will apply this thinking to myself.

If you enjoy life, there is no reason to not continue doing so. But if you don't enjoy life, and you understand why you don't, and you understand that it is very unlikely your circumstances will change, why keep hitting your head with life's hammer? It doesn't make sense.

Yes, I believe if I end up in this situation, I will apply this thinking to myself. Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

Lust, I don't think you answered his question. Would you suggest to your SO, daughter, son, niece nephew etc.....that they should commit suicide?

Death is a natural part of life....suicide haunts those that love you for the rest of their lives. Originally Posted by Kendall4U

That is the usual argument–suicide isn't an option because it 'isn't about you, it's about the people you leave behind'.

Well, that's wrong if you think about it. It's my life and it's about me.

If I just left home without saying anything to anyone, never to be seen again, that would be rude and 'haunting'. So many unanswered questions. Suicide is just one way of leaving home. However, if I left an explanation outlining my choice and the logic behind it, that's different. It's my decision and if you don't like it, too bad so sad. Right?

"L4L"

I agree there is obviously some irony in the name you chose lol

Best of luck to you as well, man. It is clear you have your own issues and I think it's pretty weak to come on here and hijack the thread with it.

Based on what you are saying, you are definitely in a better place than the OP. Get your shit together. You ALSO have a lot to be thankful for.

Lust, I don't think you answered his question. Would you suggest to your SO, daughter, son, niece nephew etc.....that they should commit suicide? Originally Posted by motor

Yes. I tried to think of how to explain it, so here goes.

When you realize that life is a choice, not a duty to others, it becomes richer. When you really grasp the concept of suicide and realize that the only reason you're here is because you choose to be, it's liberating. You stop focusing on the things that are hardships and start focusing on the things that you wouldn't want to miss. But you ALWAYS know that life is a choice and you could choose differently tomorrow. It is the ultimate freedom.

Dude, I don't know why you haven't offed yourself. The pain will end. Do you like living a miserable life? Do you think you can turn your life around? Really? Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

It isn't for the lack of trying trust me. I dont really know what to do for now I just existing which is odd I miss living.

I have tried changing my life I have done all kinds of things trying to go from where I am now to a better state of mind but no matter what as soon as things start to improve something comes along and flips the table back over.

Duthgar, get your ass in a treatment facility now! All you have to do is call 211 and direct yourself to crisis intervention services. Or call your closest ER and tell them you need help because you want to hurt yourself.

Absolutely, life is a choice. Every day. Do you know what tomorrow brings, for sure??


Talk to your Dr and make something happen, or get a new one.

You need to make some new friends. Real ones. Ones you can talk to about anything, when the timing is right. Someone that can make you laugh, have real fun, be supportive and encouraging. I would not specifically say there is a special woman, you may think that is too far out there, but there are special people that can make your heart skip a beat.

If nothing else, read some books, learn a new skill, culture, era, something. Don't let your brain stop learning and growing. Take some chances, make your heart race.

It really makes a difference. Find things and people you love and that will love you back.

And FUCK whatever your dad thinks. Easier said than done, when you deal with him all the time. But he's only one person on this planet, and apparently a miserable one, at that.


Sharing in the open on a hooker board is probably not a wise idea. But the greater population, ended up here because of something that seemed devastating at one time, so you are far from alone.

It isn't for the lack of trying trust me. I dont really know what to do for now I just existing which is odd I miss living.

I have tried changing my life I have done all kinds of things trying to go from where I am now to a better state of mind but no matter what as soon as things start to improve something comes along and flips the table back over. Originally Posted by Duthgar1976

I've read this topic and then, I went back and read one that you presented a few weeks back.

It appears as if you're stuck in the negativity of a bad living arrangement and that is horrid. It sounds as if you're concerned about your animals if you leave and try to do something different.

There are people out there that will help you with your animals if you look around. Or, a more expensive option is to board your animals.

Cheap advice, but you would have a better time of things if you checked into the Salvation Army or someplace that can give you some counseling and give you choices in going forward. Some help with dealing with the day to day crap that goes with living.

Not sure of your age, but there are also apartments (I found one in Sunnyvale several months back) that are for low income people. Rent was around $300 something per month and they were nice.

In other words, there are things that you can do. And I KNOW how hard it is to get things done when you have issues of mobility and you're in a negative environment.

I understand how it's almost impossible to even pick up the phone on some days. But you have to. It's time.

So first, TRY to get out of that environment. Get your animals situated and if need be, find a home for them for now. Or a foster group that specializes in your type of pet. Anything.

And listen to dear THN. She has offered some really good advice.

I've been in a crisis situation. Many of us have. It's the fear of change that is the worse. Just having a lot of inner fear is hell.

Take care of yourself. There are those of us who are wishing for you the best!!!

Sincerely,
Elisabeth