and that goal would be what? Originally Posted by CJ7To turn us into a Social Democratic State where we don't cling to our guns and religion. We have an Arab Spring. Or Both.
20 babies got wasted by an assault weapon in the hands of a possibly crazy person, and that OPENED the eyes of the entire world. Compared to what could be on the table the proposed legislation is mild. Regardless (exactly) what becomes of said proposal, you can bet something is going to happen... 20 dead babies is and absolute guarantee Originally Posted by CJ7Personally, I think most of these shooters are disenfranchised. Find why they are so and you'll be able to intelligently and effectively combat the problem. Guns don't kill people; people kill people.
... you can bet something is going to happen... 20 dead babies is and absolute guarantee Originally Posted by CJ7Yes, I can bet ...
Listen, gun faggots, why don't you wait until you are bitten before you squeal?FUCK you COMMIE BASTARD...
IF there is really a "slippery slope" that will lead to whatever undesirable end you "think" or hallucinate, then there will be plenty of other opportunities to head it off at the pass.
If these things that some of you are "sure" will happen begin happening, then you will be able to fight against those things (and have a lot more help) should they really begin to occur.
Like it or not, it's still a pretty far leap from these current proposals and EO's to the ATF showing up at any actual law abiding citizen's door asking for ALL weapons. Hell, as it now stands, they couldn't even ask for "assault" weapons.
So, why don't you squealing little girls unlax, take a chill pill (and a deep breath), pay attention and see if any or all of the horrible things that are, at the moment imiginary, begin to materialize. I'm sure that if they do, the NRA and F-O-X will be johnny-on-the-spot to clue everyone in. Originally Posted by Randy4Candy
Do you know how easy it is for someone to be committed? I am most familiar with Texas law on the matter, but there is a "standard" throughout the country ... Originally Posted by LexusLoverIt must be damn difficult since Assup has access to the interweb.
to cast a "net" over those who might be inclined to be a "mass murderer" the standards necessarily have to be relaxed to "assure" that few "slip through the cracks" ..Like N.O.W., the ACLU is an arm of the Democratic Party. I don't see them stepping up to the plate in this instance.
so the drum beat now is to err on the side of "caution" so now the NEW standard is going to be ... rather MANY innocent go to the hospital for treatment and "observation" rather than to have one potentially crazy shooter on the streets ...
ACLU is gonna have a field day ....
.... with the "mushy" subject of mental health detentions! Originally Posted by LexusLover
What is absolutely amazing is that Obmanable called himself a ...Where to start. Didn't Obama have a couple of US Citizens killed without due process? Didn't he refuse the courts' requests to explain how those people arrived on a "Kill list?" I know I don't have a constitutional right to fly but what's the bar for inclusion on the "no fly" list? Last time I saw, it was pretty low and the standard to get your name off the list was pretty high if its even possible.
.. constitutional law professor!
One does not toss due process and equal protection ..
I have a constitutionally protected right to own a handgun ... it is the government's burden of proof to take that right away from me .. it is one thing if I have been convicted or admitted that I committed a crime in a process in which all of my constitutional rights have been recognized and protected ...
it is yet another to put names on a "mental health" list from an integrated listing of patients' records who have visited a physician or psychiatrist and obtained depressiion medication or some other mood modifying prescription drug.
Are you familiar with the "no fly" lists?
Now you want doctors to decide who gets a gun and who doesn't? Originally Posted by LexusLover
...the ACLU is an arm of the Democratic Party. I don't see them stepping up to the plate in this instance. Originally Posted by gnadflyIt will out of sheer embarrassment ..
The President is announcing that he and the Administration will:Please describe how any of these new regulations would have prevented Sandy Hook from occurring.
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health-care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law-enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency-response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental-health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental-health-parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
Source: White House
THE NRA, OF COURSE, CALLED HIM ELITIST! Go figure! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Is that what you do? ....Poor lil' ol' LexusBlather, he thinks he's found an out. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
.... "wait until you are bitten"? Originally Posted by LexusLover
Please describe how any of these new regulations would have prevented Sandy Hook from occurring. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser"23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."