well the CL adult gig section worked for me

LOL!!!

OK, so lets put it in perspective:
1 - She is broke, no money, no alternatives...
2 - Someone offers money for sex
3 - She does it, she has NO OTHER OPTION! no job, no family to turn to, nothing to pawn...
4 - She realizes what she did, the attack on her feminism is huge, family values, religious values, it is VERY depressing!

AND we wonder why they turn bitchy? we destroy - through this wonderful hobby of ours - their self esteem, we make them give up something "sacred" for a mere bag of shekels, they are no longer girls, no longer pure, no longer daddy's girl....

Just a provider.

it was not love or pasion what moved them to give it up. It was not a prince in shinning armor, nor the love of their lives who tastes her loins. Just a dude. And in all probability, just a douchey dude...

You REALLY don't get it? Originally Posted by needingmilking

For the most part, that is true and I agree with you, but where I disagree is that I have the utmost respect for the ladies, treat them very well and I have great hygiene.

For the most part, that is true and I agree with you, but where I disagree is that I have the utmost respect for the ladies, treat them very well and I have great hygiene. Originally Posted by bigdog0311

You probably do, Bigdog. But you are still just a guy, like me or anyone else on this board, for her. At the end of the day, you are not her lover (bf, husband whatever). You are/were source of income when she badly needed some money. She may turn to you or this hobby sometime again in the future, but only if she is broke again. My few cents...

For the most part, that is true and I agree with you, but where I disagree is that I have the utmost respect for the ladies, treat them very well and I have great hygiene. Originally Posted by bigdog0311

Sorry bigdog, I did not mean to imply otherwise. I was just responding to the unreasonable disbelief (or perhaps sarcasm) posted by Txfire.

For the most part everyone in the board that I have cross paths with has been great. I think the mere act of posting denotes at least responsibility.

I do try to be respectful, and to be clean. Still, the mere act of hobby participation - while natural and normal, IMHO - implies taking advantage at someone else's situation, and that is what my previous post intends to show.

At the end, they did not chose us based on any preference they might value (attractiveness, voice, animal attraction) but solely on price. It is cold to write it, but we give them only money, not what most women value most: real intimacy (or love, whatever...)

I prefer that she "...should smile, AND BLOW ME!"

i dont get it. we are on here for the most part hobbying. then if someone recognize a provider or a lady that is UTR or a non pro then all a sudden we become a righteous squealer? or worse yet a blackmailer!! i thought it was some unwritten rule that because we do this to get our thrills off that we'd leave it at that and if we recognized them then we'd either not seem them at all or move on. screw it for the rest of us that actually has the right intentions of never wanting to damage a person if we found out who they really were in real life. i for one have made a mistake and will no longer give out info on non pros anymore. cause all a sudden hobbyist thinks they never sinned their whole life or did anything wrong and thinks they are in the right by telling someone else they have done wrong. bigdog knows what i am talking and someon that pm'd me the past few days knows what i am talking about.

my only question about this whole tatic is how do you know you aren't setting up a date with LE? I've had a few replies to my ad but i'm nervous about hooking up with them for this reason...

my only question about this whole tatic is how do you know you aren't setting up a date with LE? I've had a few replies to my ad but i'm nervous about hooking up with them for this reason... Originally Posted by ocho cinco

you don't............you just have to do you best "screening" you can.

There have been several posts from hobbyists who expound on the virtues of BP and CL. Perhaps it's a price issue; maybe it is just the thrill of the hunt. It seems to me to have more drawbacks than advantages. In the few months that I have been on here, it seems that the provider community has just exploded. With the wide variety of talent available in such a secure, high-class environment, why run the risks associated with other venues. We can be douchebag opportunistic dirty old men, right here.

Some gems can still be had if you try really hard, but recently, I offered $700 for 2 hours. Number of responses: 3, two were African-American hard core pros and one 45 y/o Caucasian women. No thanks. It's been saturated, not the same place it was a while back.

...maybe it is just the thrill of the hunt. Originally Posted by esteve

You nailed it. It is the thrill, the ritual. That is why SW and BP/CL continue to draw. In the past I had spent HOURS trolling BP/CL, or driving looking for pussy, just for it. I would not call/pick anyone because then the "high" would end.

It is just like any addiction. If you let it go to the level of a "high", this hobby ends bing normal and becomes addictive.

I now consciously try hard to break the "high"/ritual cycle. It is difficult, but those of us with addictive personalities MUST constantly put the effort to stop it.

Unfortunately now I get my highs with food, so I am a fat fuck. DAMN TEXAS BBQ!!!

...

I now consciously try hard to break the "high"/ritual cycle. It is difficult, but those of us with addictive personalities MUST constantly put the effort to stop it.

... Originally Posted by needingmilking

I know what you mean. Sometimes I troll the ads on BP solely to look at pics, not that I am thinking of calling one up. However, that does eventually lead to at least a once a week "addiction" fix in the end... dang. Getting expensive.

... dang. Getting expensive. Originally Posted by Q102

LOL, yes. I was checking my monthly budget:
Hobby: $200 month
Dinning out by myself: $250
Dinning out with family: $500

I think I could use bringing lunch to the office and shifting to hobby.... maybe.... maybe...

You nailed it. It is the thrill, the ritual. Originally Posted by needingmilking

i like variety and trying to see if i can make my money go a longer ways by finding a gem that very few have had the pleasure of meeting. sure i can settle for the usual provider that post on here, but the thrill of finding that diamond in a rough (as someone mentioned) makes the meeting that much more exciting. for me at least. the thrill of getting a nonpro who otherwised would never have considered doing this type of stuff unless it was desperate situation like to pay a water bill or something just takes this thing we call hobby to a whole new level. then afterwards you will never see them again or if you are lucky they will contact you from time to time. for instance take grand master logan and his foreign exchange au pair or bigdog and that cutie he posted about.

as far as screening is concerned, yes you need to be very thorough. i for one am looking at every angle i can as if i was a CIA or something making sure i was not being followed and what not.

Hey, fellas. I have followed this thread with some interest. Not because I would ever do the "ad thing", but because I have a UTR friend that I met on the SugarDaddy site. She is a standard mom-type, 37-ish, asian (Filipino) woman who just has more bills than budget - every month. She is no pro as you can count the number of men she has been with on one hand.

She provides a pretty good GFE experience. Not a petite woman, but not fat. A bit buxom, as she has some great breasts. Anyway, PM me if you have an interest in this type of woman. She needs a new friend (or two), since I can't afford to keep bailing her out each month.

Note: She lives in the Richardson area and can not host, so you either need to get a room or have her visit you.

GS

my only question about this whole tatic is how do you know you aren't setting up a date with LE? I've had a few replies to my ad but i'm nervous about hooking up with them for this reason... Originally Posted by ocho cinco

You have to think about what kind of a meeting you are setting up. I don't think that LE will set up an elaborate sting to catch one guy who is looking for some young trim. Big stings and raids are more productive and make better press.


If you exchange a string of incriminating emails like those guys on "to catch a predator" and then go meet her at "her house" then you are asking for it. Those guys in particular deserve what they get anyway.

I hooked up with one 21 YO girl, who is legit and we have more of a sd/sb arrangement.

^Every girl I have met, I specifically ask them in my emails if they are affiliated with the LE in any way. Once they say no, I go ahead with the arrangements. Of course, I still make sure they are not cops when we meet. Also, I google their numbers/email ID before hand. You'll get something under their phone numbers, such as an old add on CL for selling some stuff.

One more thing: I never discuss sex with any of them. That way, even if its a trap, its not illegal to meet another person. Sex for money is, but Im sure no one would fine/arrest you if you were just meeting someone for some company and paid them for it. Getting ready for sex is something that I do once I am fully confident I am not with an LE.

So ask before hand if they are an LE or not. Even if they say they aren't, do not discuss sexual activities with them and keep it all legal. Sensual Massage is legal. Just try to get a feel for the lady if she knows what it is that you want without you having to say it. You don't wanna pay a Benjamin and end up with your Johnny in your own hands. The CL adults gig is there for a reason so almost every girl knows what it is that you are looking for. Meet them, get comfortable, and proceed accordingly.

Anyone else got any input? Im sure even I can use some.