I Agree

Do you agree with Paine or not?

Only it wasn't true in 2003 when folks disagreed with the government taking us to war.....

Interesting. Originally Posted by WTF

Proof of stupidity on this board. According to the above ONLY Tea Party people are worried about our government. Polling says otherwise and so does common sense. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Proof you can not understand the written word.

Everybody worries about government rule, all I said is that it is no worse than it was 200 years ago...ask any woman or black person. You fucking nuts act as if it just started going south in 2008...

Do you agree with Paine or not? Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Of course...but it is like saying you need oxygen to breath. Agreeing with the obvious sounds elementary to me. You sound like some Hitler youth.

Details Watson, how about details. Do you believe it is time for another Civil War? So my question to you is wtf are you going to do, the other side does not care for your government intrusion into their lives on say abortion.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

As the Whiskey Rebellion taught us, one man's protection is another's enforcement of a duly passed law on EVERYONE, whether they agree with it or not. Part of the buy-in for our form of government is obeying laws we may not agree with since they are not edicts from a monarch but, come from elected representation. Do you remember "No Taxation Without Representation?" Most Teawipes don't. They think the quote was, "No Taxation For Me If I Don't Like It."

Now before one of you illiterates brings up what you think is a good illustration of an usurping edict coming from the Executive, remember that the power to do such things stems from power either ceded or specifically given to the Executive by the Legislative, and in a few cases, by the Supremes.

Hey, how about your boyz Boosh and Chainey throwing everything they had at the crooks at Enron? (not) After all, those Enron guys only forced their employees to buy company stock as a source for retirement "income" and then proceeded to gut the stock, take the money for themselves and leave their employees without any retirement $ at all. Where was the "virtue" in your boyz' enforcement and why do they still have a pot to piss in? Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You idiots can't have it both ways. It either works for everyone or it really doesn't work at all.

Do you remember "No Taxation Without Representation?" Most Teawipes don't. Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

And you forget that Parliament offered to accept representatives from the colonies, Randy4Andy.

They think the quote was, "No Taxation For Me If I Don't Like It."
Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

Your ignorance of history is profound, Randy4Andy.

And you forget that Parliament offered to accept representatives from the colonies, Randy4Andy.

Hey IBS/OAB, stick to the subject, you deflecting Teawipe. Was "No Taxation Without Representation" a favorite slogan of pre-revolutionary Colonists or not? Hasn't it been perverted by you Teawipes to be "No Taxation For Me If I Don't Like It"? Of course it has.

You changing the subject never worked and still doesn't.


Your ignorance of history is profound, Randy4Andy. You are absolutely correct with regards to your own stupidity. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I know it's early in the morning, but is this all you can gen up?

I think to many; it isn't so obvious....................... in fact many disagreed with Paine when he originally made that statement..............

Many say the 2nd Amendment isn't intended to stop tyrannical governments....Thomas Paine was a supporter of the 2nd Ammendment, your "of course" is welcomed.

Welcome to the revolution WTF ! You are now an honorary Tea Party member, like it or not !

Of course...but it is like saying you need oxygen to breath. Agreeing with the obvious sounds elementary to me. You sound like some Hitler youth.

Details Watson, how about details. Do you believe it is time for another Civil War? So my question to you is wtf are you going to do, the other side does not care for your government intrusion into their lives on say abortion. Originally Posted by WTF

I believe it is time for a velvet revolution; a return of power to the state legislatures ! A massive downsizing of the federal bureaucracy. That may lead to a civil war, or it might not. I suspect the hard left won't go down softly !

And the abortion issue can be settled easily by returning the decision back to the states.

And the abortion issue can be settled easily by returning the decision back to the states. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

You want more freedom correct?


Don't you think it more freedom would come if we left it up to the individual?

Why are you so keen on being governed from a massive State? You Tea Wipes act as if being killed by a drone is different than a tank.

Hey IBS/OAB, stick to the subject, you deflecting Teawipe. Was "No Taxation Without Representation" a favorite slogan of pre-revolutionary Colonists or not? Hasn't it been perverted by you Teawipes to be "No Taxation For Me If I Don't Like It"? Of course it has.

You changing the subject never worked and still doesn't.

You are absolutely correct with regards to your own stupidity.

I know it's early in the morning, but is this all you can gen up? Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

You're the ignorant sotted fool in the room, Randy4Andy, because what you deem as a 'perversion' of the slogan is actually a very correct interpretation of the slogan -- even in 1774.


"Resolved, 4. That the foundation of English liberty, and of all free government, is a right in the people to participate in their legislative council: and as the English colonists are not represented, and from their local and other circumstances, cannot properly be represented in the British parliament, they are entitled to a free and exclusive power of legislation in their several provincial legislatures, where their right of representation can alone be preserved, in all cases of taxation and internal polity, subject only to the negative of their sovereign, in such manner as has been heretofore used and accustomed: But, from the necessity of the case, and a regard to the mutual interest of both countries, we cheerfully consent to the operation of such acts of the British parliament, as are bonfide, restrained to the regulation of our external commerce, for the purpose of securing the commercial advantages of the whole empire to the mother country, and the commercial benefits of its respective members; excluding every idea of taxation internal or external, for raising a revenue on the subjects, in America, without their consent."

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/resolves.asp

You don't have freedom if you allow people to kill viable babies.

The pro abortion crowd doesn't believe in life, liberty and freedom; if they did, they wouldn't support infanticide.

Only it wasn't true in 2003 when folks disagreed with the government taking us to war.....

Interesting. Originally Posted by WTF

they're all a bunch of hypocrites ... when it comes to COF being a true patriot he's a joke

You're the ignorant sotted fool in the room, Randy4Andy, because what you deem as a 'perversion' of the slogan is actually a very correct interpretation of the slogan -- even in 1774.


"Resolved, 4. That the foundation of English liberty, and of all free government, is a right in the people to participate in their legislative council: and as the English colonists are not represented, and from their local and other circumstances, cannot properly be represented in the British parliament, they are entitled to a free and exclusive power of legislation in their several provincial legislatures, where their right of representation can alone be preserved, in all cases of taxation and internal polity, subject only to the negative of their sovereign, in such manner as has been heretofore used and accustomed: But, from the necessity of the case, and a regard to the mutual interest of both countries, we cheerfully consent to the operation of such acts of the British parliament, as are bonfide, restrained to the regulation of our external commerce, for the purpose of securing the commercial advantages of the whole empire to the mother country, and the commercial benefits of its respective members; excluding every idea of taxation internal or external, for raising a revenue on the subjects, in America, without their consent."

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/resolves.asp Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Are you really that fu*king incomprehensibly stupid?

I have changed my mind from yesterday, the IBS really stands for Irrational Bullshit Syndrome.

Are you really that fu*king incomprehensibly stupid?

I have changed my mind from yesterday, the IBS really stands for Irrational Bullshit Syndrome. Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

Can't deal with real facts can you, Randy4Andy. Enjoy your Vision Quests.

You don't have freedom if you allow people to kill viable babies.

The pro abortion crowd doesn't believe in life, liberty and freedom; if they did, they wouldn't support infanticide. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING, DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR?

Well, that sure brought out all the Statists and government lovers, didn't it?