I scratch all the time when I play a round! I learned in Seattle and in Hawaii when I was in the service. I have a 4 handicap and that is from the black tees aka the far back one. If you can afford one of those flip cameras and watch your swing that will help. When I am shanking that is what I do instead of paying someone else. Also Tiger has a book which I loved and thought me so much about the game. Good Luck! Originally Posted by kalel030I thought 4 handicaps didn't shank!