If you're an American, this should make you angry

We'll soon get the opportunity to see just how critical "Americans" will be when they have the "chance" to elect the FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT to replace the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. Originally Posted by LexusLover

How critical can we really be when we have two choices and they're both terrible? They've taken the ability to criticize away from us, can't you see that?

Before Bush II and Before 9/11, there was Bill Clinton, the Democrats and the 1993 WTC attack.

If you are an American, you should be angry. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Leave it to you to carry the republitard water. This is about the system, you ignorant cunt. The system that has the country divided, bitching about everything. Most people, you included, are too fucking dumb to see it.

I don't carry water for the GOP; in fact I am on record saying Bush was a terrible president and I didn't vote for him.

Where do you stand ? You think Obama is a terrible president? Did you vote for him?

Nobody believes for a moment that you aren't an Obama anus licker.

Unlike you, I actually think the system is broke and produces awful presidents like Obama, Bush I and II, Clinton and likely Hillary.

You on the other hand, luvs your Obama.........No doubt you want more Obama (unleashed), not less.

I don't carry water for the GOP; in fact I am on record saying Bush was a terrible president and I didn't vote for him.

Where do you stand ? You think Obama is a terrible president? Did you vote for him?

Nobody believes for a moment that you aren't an Obama anus licker.

Unlike you, I actually think the system is broke and produces awful presidents like Obama, Bush I and II, Clinton and likely Hillary.

You on the other hand, luvs your Obama.........No doubt you want more Obama (unleashed), not less. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Look at yourself. How the fuck would you have any idea what I want when you spend your time spewing drivel? You assume you know, based on a few choice nuggets. That's it. You really have no fucking clue. I think Obama has done some good things and some bad things. That's pretty much par for the course. At least we haven't been led into a bullshit war based on lies.

What are some of the bad things Obama has done, WormRaper?

What are some of the bad things Obama has done, WormRaper? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Good question. Firstly, it was an unrealistic expectation but I still think he could have done better job and that's healing the racial divide in our country. As I said, I think he was saddled with unrealistic expectations and that overnight we would simply change and the country would change and it just didn't happen. Racism is something we will never fully heal or change.

I don't think he's done enough to address the underpinnings of the financial crisis that started under Bush and continued on after Obama was elected. Dodd-Frank is a fucking joke. We had a chance to really make changes and the opportunity was missed. I blame congress for that one as much as I do Obama, however.

He could have done more about the NSA and spying. And I had hoped he would close down Guantanamo.

Good question. Firstly, it was an unrealistic expectation but I still think he could have done better job and that's healing the racial divide in our country. As I said, I think he was saddled with unrealistic expectations and that overnight we would simply change and the country would change and it just didn't happen. Racism is something we will never fully heal or change.

I don't think he's done enough to address the underpinnings of the financial crisis that started under Bush and continued on after Obama was elected. Dodd-Frank is a fucking joke. We had a chance to really make changes and the opportunity was missed. I blame congress for that one as much as I do Obama, however.

He could have done more about the NSA and spying. And I had hoped he would close down Guantanamo. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Wow! A definite sign of impending mental failure. You've forgotten forcing the American people to accept Obamacare. The selling out of the nation with threatened amnesty for people from other countries. Failure to follow through on Iraq which would justify Iraq and the loss of life. The still foundering economy with over a trillion dollars squandered with crony cash. So many more things you've forgotten.

Wow! A definite sign of impending mental failure. You've forgotten forcing the American people to accept Obamacare. The selling out of the nation with threatened amnesty for people from other countries. Failure to follow through on Iraq which would justify Iraq and the loss of life. The still foundering economy with over a trillion dollars squandered with crony cash. So many more things you've forgotten. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

He asked what things I didn't like. I listed them. I'm in favor of Obamacare and immigration reform. Iraq is Bush's quagmire, they want us out and we should be out of there. The economy is doing ok.

This should make any American angry. Originally Posted by WombRaider

So you're angry? What difference does it make?

Failure to follow through on Iraq which would justify Iraq and the loss of life. . Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

NOTHING will justify Iraq you pin-headed buffoon!

He asked what things I didn't like. I listed them. I'm in favor of Obamacare and immigration reform. Iraq is Bush's quagmire, they want us out and we should be out of there. The economy is doing ok. Originally Posted by WombRaider

So the unconstitutional things you like? Besides being a bigoted anti-religious, homophobe, you're a fascist as well. Care to identify anyone else from your Bund meetings?

So the unconstitutional things you like? Besides being a bigoted anti-religious, homophobe, you're a fascist as well. Care to identify anyone else from your Bund meetings? Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

What, in your opinion, is unconstitutional?

Lets see...according to the Constitution ONLY the Congress can make immigration law. There can be no blanket amnesty without the vote of Congress like Reagan did (which he regretted). Obama's attempt at an amnesty is an order to violate federal law and is unconstitutional.

ONLY Congress can make tax law. Now that everyone lied to the Supreme Court about whether or not Obamacare was a tax or a fee has been settled...it is a tax. So only Congress can change it but Obama has done over 30 changes to a law unconstitutionally. According to the law it should have gone into affect as is and on time.

Providing aid and comfort to the enemy is another word for treason and treason is unconstitutional. Giving up five top Islamic commanders for one soldier (at best) or one traitor (at worst) is treasonous and unconstitutional.

The president is charged with enforcing the law through the Justice Department. Failure to enforce the law be it immigration, the IRS, the NSA, or just prosecuting the Black Panthers is a willful failure and is unconstitutional. I didn't even mention Fast and Furious did I?

Shall I continue or do you want to take the position that this actions were constitutional? By the way, arguing that they have not opposed by Congress is not a defense, excuse, or reason. Congress has been failing in their constitutional responsibilities as well.

Lets see...according to the Constitution ONLY the Congress can make immigration law. There can be no blanket amnesty without the vote of Congress like Reagan did (which he regretted). Obama's attempt at an amnesty is an order to violate federal law and is unconstitutional.

ONLY Congress can make tax law. Now that everyone lied to the Supreme Court about whether or not Obamacare was a tax or a fee has been settled...it is a tax. So only Congress can change it but Obama has done over 30 changes to a law unconstitutionally. According to the law it should have gone into affect as is and on time.

Providing aid and comfort to the enemy is another word for treason and treason is unconstitutional. Giving up five top Islamic commanders for one soldier (at best) or one traitor (at worst) is treasonous and unconstitutional.

The president is charged with enforcing the law through the Justice Department. Failure to enforce the law be it immigration, the IRS, the NSA, or just prosecuting the Black Panthers is a willful failure and is unconstitutional. I didn't even mention Fast and Furious did I?

Shall I continue or do you want to take the position that this actions were constitutional? By the way, arguing that they have not opposed by Congress is not a defense, excuse, or reason. Congress has been failing in their constitutional responsibilities as well. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

What if I just don't give a shit.

He has not provided aid and comfort for the enemy. That's disingenuous. Thousands of islamic fighters have died due to actions taken by Obama.

You're not a constitutional scholar, so I won't debate constitutionality with you. That would be like debating football offensive schemes with a cat.

His lawyers obviously felt he had executive power to carry out such actions or they wouldn't have done them.

What if I just don't give a shit.

He has not provided aid and comfort for the enemy. That's disingenuous. Thousands of islamic fighters have died due to actions taken by Obama.

You're not a constitutional scholar, so I won't debate constitutionality with you. That would be like debating football offensive schemes with a cat.

His lawyers obviously felt he had executive power to carry out such actions or they wouldn't have done them. Originally Posted by WombRaider

He is the biggest moron on this forum. He talks about unconstitutional, but he'll never admit to unconstitutional acts committed by a republican president.
His hero Reagan violated the constitution in the Iran Contra affair.

Shrubbie invaded a country on a false pretense.

Shrubbie is the one who originally authorized NSA surveillance, directly violating the 4th amendment.

As usual, he'll make up bullshit that is absolutely false (Obama providing comfort to the enemy...WTF???), but he won't look in the mirror and realize the huge bag of shit he's dragging along.