I love getting PMs and emails from hobbyists ...
Lately, over the past 2-3 months, inquiries like I'm talking about have become the norm and I feel it should be addressed in an open forum, to explain the cold shoulder so many have received from me. To that end, I have resurrected a post I made long, long ago, on a board far, far away, in hopes that... well.....
So, there you have it. Any questions?
~sweetness~
Originally Posted by Caitie Mae
Hi Catie Mae,
I understand the need to come on the board and clarify a stance. I hate it 's not more appreciated and others don't take it as an opportunity to use it as a learning tool, rather than an opportunity to "lady bash" at times. Granted, I am much more insistant than most, and even willing to roll in muck even when it feels so bad, but it's the only language some seem to understand. I came to the board much sooner than you with my questions and complaints about not only what goes on here, but what it does to others not even standing in the line of site. When I started having trouble trying to manage what should be deemed "My" business, but began seeming as if it had turned into something akin to being "internet pimped". Gotta take a stance at times, even if we don't want to. Otherwise, out come the bulldozers and there is much confusion. I feel for ya, hon. This part of the biz...is truly no fun!
Stick to your stance as it might be helpful not only to you, but to other ladies as well. Some do not have the heart or even inclination to fight for what is theirs. Be aware of all the possible scenarios and ways some of these folks might as well be hands on pimps, simply by using their hateful words and slipping around busy behind the scenes or even out in public using veiled threats and whatnot. IMO, it's been a disservice to the entire community, what has been allowed to go on here. And yes, I realize I am just a woman and a provider, so my opinion ain't worth jack diddly, but so far, I'm still standing, and NO, that's not a challenge. My legs are wobbly, but NO MAN or silly woman who thinks I'm her competition or something, is gonna knock me down in anything other than a fair fight for my business. When I am ready to throw in the towel, I will and it will be my choice. Otherwise, it's obvious.
Again, stick to your stance, as so many have been unable to. They don't realize what they do to themselves and every lady here when they do not. If they did, there would be ZERO threads of this nature.
Shoot me an email when ya get a minute or you are not reall busy...I'm looking for a friendly companion and maybe you can help me shop for one. :-) Many here are just way too vicious and that goes for both the men and women. ijs
QFT. It goes both ways though.
Originally Posted by johnnylongcaulking
Some times it just sucks to be a woman in this world, when it comes to feeling we are safe concerning men. This is no one's fault, it just is. Try not to take it personal when a lady feels she has got to take it to the extreme in order to ensure her safety. If you've never stood in a woman's shoes, that might be hard to comprehend, and I get that. If some gents could make an effort not to get bent out of shape if a lady asks them for more than they are comfortable providing, that would be great. Keep in mind....We are asked to provide ALL kinds of uncomfortable things much worse than this.
Of course I understand the need for discretion. And I can only hope most gents understand the need to take their time and do their research in order to avoid, as much as possible, those that are even suspect at providing in a manner that might be harmful to a hobbyist, other ladies, or even herself.
The only advice I would give is you might send back a PM explaining
that you don't discuss services through PM's instead of just sending
them straight to the dumpster.
Originally Posted by bojulay
I answer almost 100% of PMs I receive, it changes nothing and I have rarely been nasty or upset in response, even when a gent has been a whole lot of unpleasant adjectives when he intiated first contact.
It's not rocket surgery.
Random and off topic, my apologies, but.....I'm stealing that line...lol It's the only thing that's even made me smile here today. Thanks for that...:-)
Originally Posted by Gluteman
[QUOTE=gimme_that;1057500998]Its not your reviewers resonsibilty or their place to verify what you may or may not due. Some of us are gentleman and wouldnt feel the need or obligation to discuss. Gluteman is not your pimp or manager. Although I'm sure glutemen wouldnt mind his private messaging box being filled with service confirmations of all your clients inquries going forward. I'm sure he wouldn't mind right............
Hopefully this post will get people on the right track...............
To be asked such thoughtless questions after screening would be even worse than on initial contact. At least if you ask up front I only lose the time it takes to read the message, not all of the time it takes to properly screen a potential playmate.
Originally Posted by Caitie Mae
Hey...don't some of the ladies give the gents refs? We do it for the other ladies and so the lady can make an informed decision on whether she feels she can see you. Hate it so many feel the need to poach clients rather than respond and only hurt the whole community when they behave this way. Do they not realize what the gent's agenda was to begin with and how it's just another negotiation tactic at times. smh
Please do not tell the ladies how to run their individual businesses, unless they specifically ask you, despite the fact you may believe you can run it better or not. or simply because it suits your own "specific" needs. And please, as a hobbyist who enjoys certain types of ladies, do you think it a disservice to your hobbying experience when a gent insists it should be done the way he likes it? Do you just take them at their word it's the right or wrong way and go by that, or do you go with what you desire concerning hobbying? We are individuals and to be honest, this kinda thing has lead to a MUCH MUCH bigger mess. So, yeah...tone it down just a notch, hon. The ladies are individuals, and other than the gents who know better than us about every aspect of life and our own entire being, we got this. Suggestions are great, but this...not so much.
Catie prefers to provide and feel safe however she can, and rather than go into combat mode, because you find it uncomfortable, maybe ask her why she feels the need to do things as she does. If she feels she wants to share, kewl. If not...well, it is her biz...is it not? Hey, I'm guilty of this same thing, but it ain't working, and I am determined to figure out what works at least a little better than what hasn't been working. Brow beating ain't it and neither are one liners. Don't they have, I dunno.... cam sites or something for that kinda thing? Maybe some actual discussion, a little compassion, and less insisting our personal views might be a better solution in order to get some answers? Idk...I haven't found it yet, but I rarely give up on anything or anyone, and I am gonna try something different until something works a little better.
^^^I don't know, ask her, she's the one who wrote the fucking threAD.
I'm just here to help providers make History and make their cheapass entry level BMW payments.
Originally Posted by ManSlut
Really? It seems like you have a much different agenda at times. Belittle and degrade, maybe a little envy or jealousy or need approval from caustic buds or something.
Not judging, it's just how I view it or read your tone. I imagine others think you are a super nice fella or even great hobbyist who can wrestle, any lady or gent, until he wins with his "non-feel" or something.
Not trying to pick a fight, or be disrespectful to you, but it seems like you got some hater issues just by what you stated here, much less everything else you ever comment on. Not that I'm asking you to divulge your issues or even wanna know what your agenda is. Catie Mae and even I... we are just trying to get our biz back on track, if that's OKay with everyone? If it helps other ladies, then kewl. But neither of us is trying to be hateful or hurtful to anyone who isn't trying insistantly to subject us to their BS. If we do not have this right and it offends you so deeply, can you please explain why that it is?
These kinda comments and being told to grow thick skin or have no feelings regarding our businesses, are inane. If you believe otherwise, can you tell me why that would be, as well? I actually do love to learn, so please, teach me something I can understand and accept about this kinda thing. It just seems... All non-feeling folks need to get their feelings back, deal with them and let them go already. The darn things are buried within and this is what spews out at the rest of us. Feel entitled if ya like, but "We" didn't put 'em there, so take it out on those who told ya this was the way to be.
It's causing some of you to have serious communication and even comprehension issues. Sorry you believed the whole "suck it up" or move along thing, and sorry others used it as an excuse to treat ya poorly or even use that to teach ya to be man or a provider. It doesn't make ya either of those. It makes you look like a follower who can't think for himself and wants to impress other non-feelers who love to have little sheep following around behind them. It also doesn't mean those who feel, are wrong about anything. Maybe it's why we have compassion when we see so many struggling with the whole "don't feel anything" issue. The one thing you folks can't surpress is your obvious anger about not feeling nothing. This...is as obvious as the nose on anyone's face. Because you choose not to see it, doesn't make it less than what it actually is.
I'd apologize for the length of my words, but I, and apparently some others, can't learn a thing using one liner hateful comments....I'm wordy, and do not judge those who are not. Not everyone enjoys learning as I do, but understand when I tell ya this is what I see in you, and maybe even why I see it as I do. I realize, I may be way off base, but ya give me no reason to believe otherwise, nor do I think ya even care how I view you or others who practice this one line attack stuff, as if texting like a teenager.