YMMV

Nope some of the higher rates I've paid have been the worst , and the lowest the absolute best ! And I'm making my judgement on the session , not the rate .
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I know this is provider suicide, but I can admit I am def. ymmv. (I guess this could help me weed out those that have been hesitant anyway) but, as far as the acronyms I do offer, they are a guarantee no matter what. But there have been a few occasions over the past 7 years where chemistry just didn't happen, where their breath or hygiene was just beyond rancid, or they were too aggressive/ disrespectful for me to fully accommodate w a smile. It is what it is for me. But I can definitely admit that I can be ymmv depending on the gent himself. But as far as the simple expectations via acronym displays, FS, BBBJ, LFK, (Dfk for those who know how to wo swallowing my lips or soaking my cheeks lol) DATY etc are definitely included.

Same goes for the contrary, if we hit it off very well, I'm up for the extra effort in chemistry, sparks, extra time outside of the hour etc. and genuinely showing how much I'm into it.

Summing up my ymmv:: If you treat me like a queen, I treat you like king. If the guy treats me like a simple fuck, I do the same. Lol. Originally Posted by ExoticEzra

AGREED!

OP: Mileage WILL vary, BUT you can hedge your bets by reading a provider's profile and seeing what she likes; many will say something like "likes: fresh flowers OR favorite drink: Dr. Pepper" If you show up with a $10 bouquet, you are getting MORE mileage. If her tastes are for diamonds and tiaras, Beadazzle your dick!!!

if you don't care to spend extra money, most will at least express an interest in something you can discuss...Granted, many of us Hobby because we are not good communicators in the real world--and what a great opportunity to practice being a gentleman in an intimate encounter with a woman!!

Show some effort, see some reward.

ALSO, never forget that providers see guys with different tastes: they will take cues from you, so be vocal about what you'd like to have happen (in person, after screening, and donation, etc...) Don't be crude, though. Try this dialogue "So, I read some reviews, and I really want my experience to look like what you did with 3daygetaway; the whole, strap-it-on-and-bend-him-over-like-a-man thing...could we do that in a little while?"
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Diehard, I have to agree with you. My best sessions have been at the lower rate for sure. Now the YMMV, most definitely it's all about chemistry. I've found ladies mechanical meaning not much chemistry between us never turns out to be great and I always just hurry up finish and leave. Hell, they probably thought they were great or I just don't last long. Now mt secrets out. However, the ladies that I connect with and they know who they are. I have all kinds of long lasting energy and we both orgasmically enjoy. YMMV is exactly why I don't go for the high price ladies and will never know if we connect or not. Just my experience
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Ezra its not an issue, EVERY Provider is YMMV and if she acts like she is not.. well why do you think they call it a 'Trick'... I have done continual business with people who I fuking HATE the sight off their voice and all of which they stand for.. but $$$ is $$$ and I need it
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Diehard, I have to agree with you. My best sessions have been at the lower rate for sure. Now the YMMV, most definitely it's all about chemistry. I've found ladies mechanical meaning not much chemistry between us never turns out to be great and I always just hurry up finish and leave. Hell, they probably thought they were great or I just don't last long. Now mt secrets out. However, the ladies that I connect with and they know who they are. I have all kinds of long lasting energy and we both orgasmically enjoy. YMMV is exactly why I don't go for the high price ladies and will never know if we connect or not. Just my experience Originally Posted by Passion2015
So two issues are involved. Service level? So as a general concept - The hotties know they have the body to get the bread, and not give the greatest service -
payin' to touch me boys, becareful of my TOYS?
While the MILF may enjoy it more and/or not worry as much about the cash?

My new AFT is in that category.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=504820
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=492271
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=473298


And Maxie here is Austin has been incredable too:
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=498273
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=464385




AGREED!

OP: Mileage WILL vary, BUT you can hedge your bets by reading a provider's profile and seeing what she likes; many will say something like "likes: fresh flowers OR favorite drink: Dr. Pepper" If you show up with a $10 bouquet, you are getting MORE mileage. If her tastes are for diamonds and tiaras, Beadazzle your dick!!!

if you don't care to spend extra money, most will at least express an interest in something you can discuss...Granted, many of us Hobby because we are not good communicators in the real world--and what a great opportunity to practice being a gentleman in an intimate encounter with a woman!!

Show some effort, see some reward.

ALSO, never forget that providers see guys with different tastes: they will take cues from you, so be vocal about what you'd like to have happen (in person, after screening, and donation, etc...) Don't be crude, though. Try this dialogue "So, I read some reviews, and I really want my experience to look like what you did with 3daygetaway; the whole, strap-it-on-and-bend-him-over-like-a-man thing...could we do that in a little while?" Originally Posted by 3daygetaway
Good points 3day. I used to always do a gift on a first appointment and a BBQ grill recently and a few clothes, ticket to a concert....but if I can book 1 hours for 100 or 150 and go twice as often, I will get to know the lady fast and may time she will get comfortable enough to share more in the bathroom than a shower!


thanks for sharing folks. I have been harassed some much on the KC Board, by a couple of anger "citizens" I am avoiding everything but reviews.
I am going to do more in Austin. Wish I could afford to travel as much as I used to. Had hope for an August trip but that is up in the air now!

Oh, I do own the new ATF a review - it is going to be called "Auburn Jewel and Pussy Vampire!". Rough title - it was a 3 hour session at $100 per hour! She is a squirter like Maxie and I sucked her dry!
A few people in the past have creeped me out so much that I almost didn't invite them back.......now those same 3 men are some of my best most beloved regulars.......

I never let a lack of chemistry set things in stone. I never know when my extra attention will reap benefits and make the gentleman feel truly appreciated. Some gents I thought HATED me when they left just turned out to be painfully shy...and returned often to my suprise!!! Even the weirdest appts usually turn out great as long as MY attitude stays above board!!!!!
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YMMV= your money my vejay
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A few people in the past have creeped me out so much that I almost didn't invite them back.......now those same 3 men are some of my best most beloved regulars.......

I never let a lack of chemistry set things in stone. I never know when my extra attention will reap benefits and make the gentleman feel truly appreciated. Some gents I thought HATED me when they left just turned out to be painfully shy...and returned often to my suprise!!! Even the weirdest appts usually turn out great as long as MY attitude stays above board!!!!! Originally Posted by maxieryan
Some of us really unsure around women and it is hard to tell many times. And Maxie, it is your chemistry that brought them back. When you open up, it is like a warm breeze blowing into the palm trees on a beach on a beautiful pacific Island.

You light my fire!
Some of us really unsure around women and it is hard to tell many times. And Maxie, it is your chemistry that brought them back. When you open up, it is like a warm breeze blowing into the palm trees on a beach on a beautiful pacific Island.

You light my fire! Originally Posted by newtotown
I wasn't going to comment on this thread until I read what you wrote about Maxie. That was lovely.

Ann
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I wasn't going to comment on this thread until I read what you wrote about Maxie. That was lovely.

Ann Originally Posted by Asian Ann
Thank you for sharing Ann In real life my marriage was a total disaster that I allowed for too long. There are many ladies in the hobby who have shared with me openly in a short term way. Like girlfriends, they have opened themselves and shared. Some call it chemistry. To me it is openness and caring. Many hobbyist are not open. They are there to fulfill a need in their life. Get it done and move on. 40 years of a bad marriage was enough to cause me to want to end my life. But a GFE talked me out of it. So divorce and a few relationships later, I am back in the hobby. I would like to find true love but it is not easy. I have many lady hobby "lovers" who share much with me and help me make it through the day until I can find real love for the first time. It is a search that continues. Openess is a 2 ways street of course and does not work for everyone.

And I might share that I recently meet someone who might become part of my future. But real relationships take more that 60 mintues to develope. I hope this works out for both of us. I just meet the lady a few weeks ago and there are many things to work out. I hope I can be the man she needs in her life and we can make our real life relationship "a warm breeze blowing into the palm trees on a beach on a beautiful pacific Island". Wish me luck Ann. I can mess up a good thing so many different ways.
Same goes for the contrary, if we hit it off very well, I'm up for the extra effort in chemistry, sparks, extra time outside of the hour etc. and genuinely showing how much I'm into it.

Summing up my ymmv:: If you treat me like a queen, I treat you like king. If the guy treats me like a simple fuck, I do the same. Lol. Originally Posted by ExoticEzra
Then as 3day stated so elloquently, " show some effort, reap some rewards".

I am one of those 'odd' people who understand and like the " strange, obese, hairy, nerdy, mentally bizarre, turetts? syndrome, socially unacceptable, awkward, no limbs, scars, burns, skin ailments, disfigurement, hell- the Elephant Man! Just call me Deuce Bigalo in female form!!!

Very early on in this endeavor I had a SESSION (cap letters...) with someone I am CONVINCED was a total psychopath killer. I say this because there was absolutely NOTHING behind his eyes. The eyes of a shark, if you will excuse the cliche.Very attractive- Unsettling at best.... But that session went AB FAB because I just focused on why he came to see me- not how possibly weird he was or what I thought about what I was seeing....... but since I can take care of myself, whatever. I actully invited him to return. ? who knows what drives us to do.........anything.

I will tell you that the same thing you gents are saying about the 'less attractive' providers being more fun is DOUBLY true in my experience with the GENTS who visit. I have 6 clients who are over #350 (some are GORILLA- hairy) and every one of them leaves me giddy and smiling.

YMMV.......hmmmm. The way I see it the only one who determines (usually) the quality of your session.....is YOU. Best to do your research. FOR ME- The only things to usually turn the session are bad grooming/ hygiene and of course rough/rude/ entitled treatment. If you come for a massage, don't try to get FS. If you want something, ask beforehand. You never know , you might be on the A-list and not know it!!!
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Then as 3day stated so elloquently, " show some effort, reap some rewards".

I am one of those 'odd' people who understand and like the " strange, obese, hairy, nerdy, mentally bizarre, turetts? syndrome, socially unacceptable, awkward, no limbs, scars, burns, skin ailments, disfigurement, hell- the Elephant Man! Just call me Deuce Bigalo in female form!!! ..... Originally Posted by maxieryan
Beauty and the beast!


Kinda like when I come to your place Maxie!
Hahaha, very funny! You'll get no sympathy from me you leper!!!!!!!! When is our photo shoot? ??????? still waiting for expert advice.......
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Hahaha, very funny! You'll get no sympathy from me you leper!!!!!!!! When is our photo shoot? ??????? still waiting for expert advice....... Originally Posted by maxieryan
My apology young lady. I lost a part-time job and the loss of income has drastically changed my ability to travel. I had hoped to visit Austin 3 to 5 times a year. But until the income level changes, hobby play and everything else is minimal.
Like anywhere else if she really likes you on a personal level she will go above and beyond the call of duty because she is actually enjoying it as well.

If she has to tolerate the session for whatever reason then you will receive only that required to send you away a satisfied customer.